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re: When does the “blame everything on COVID” business model cease?

Posted on 9/21/21 at 1:28 pm to
Posted by bigberg2000
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Posted on 9/21/21 at 1:28 pm to
Yeah everyone seems to use it as an excuse. It sucks.
Posted by Murtown
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Posted on 9/21/21 at 4:54 pm to
When I flew out of L.A. the other day there were a bunch of tanker ships just sitting out in the bay doing nothing.
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Posted by kjp811
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Posted on 9/21/21 at 5:00 pm to
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Late shipping, no more above and beyond, back order, slow manufacturing process….all businesses just blame the pandemic and we are helpless to change it it seems. Biggest cop out ever.



It's not just state side. Ports and factories around the world faced disruptions and were feeling the ripple effects from that and it will continues for quite sometime. Also, international air travel shut down, it really hampered the ability to ship thing via air freight. I think the number was around 70% of all air freight capacity disappeared last year because passenger planes stopped flying. That brought all those goods to the ports.
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Posted by 3nOut
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Posted on 9/21/21 at 5:05 pm to
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all businesses just blame the pandemic and we are helpless to change it it seems. Biggest cop out ever.


I said this in a similar thread the other day. HEB or Publix being out Gatorade or you having to wait for a table at an understaffed restaurant is not using COVID as an excuse. They legitimately can’t help what’s happening.

People shutting down production and being really slow to move product internationally (on top of the morons who decided to tax and regulate industry to the point that making our goods international was cheaper) because of “Covid” along with paying people to stay home and making them unevicatable is where your ire should be placed.
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Posted by 3nOut
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Posted on 9/21/21 at 5:09 pm to
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OK, what is your solution for making Taiwanese computer chips, because it’s about to get even more fun when China invades Taiwan and then has additional power over us from that sphere?




STOP MAKING IT MORE PROFITABLE TO MAKE shite ABROAD THAN TO MAKE IT HERE.

(Not directed at you. If any of our FBI overlords are listening, pass it on)
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Posted by 3nOut
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Posted on 9/21/21 at 5:16 pm to
Agreed. But if we just sit and wait for Taiwan to be invaded or pick back up production, we’re just waiting for the next supply chain interruption and then we’ll be yelling “why didn’t we start producing here?”
Posted by Gravitiger
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Posted on 9/21/21 at 5:20 pm to
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STOP MAKING IT MORE PROFITABLE TO MAKE shite ABROAD THAN TO MAKE IT HERE.
So...eliminate minimum wage, minimum age, maximum hours, and all standards of safe working and living conditions, and expect US workers to accept that?

Or, we don't eliminate those laws and just impose 500% tariffs on all imported goods and pass either cost on to the consumer. So now you’re paying $25 for a pair of socks, And your kids' sneakers that you have to replace at least once a year now cost $150 a pair.

That is what it will take to make it profitable for most consumer goods to be manufactured here. How much of that are you willing and able to deal with?
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Posted by OweO
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Posted on 9/21/21 at 5:29 pm to
The most popular phrase has become "You know, with Covid an everything"... Im serious, I hear people say this shite all the time.
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Posted by 3nOut
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Posted on 9/21/21 at 5:46 pm to
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So...eliminate minimum wage, minimum age, maximum hours, and all standards of safe working and living conditions (which would cause the American labor force, such as it is, to completely crumble). Or impose 500% tariffs on all imported goods? Or just pass all that on to the consumer so you’re paying $25 for a pair of socks?



Honestly... a bit of all of them?

It’s easy to just say “oh it’s all too hard, let’s keep making everything abroad.” But we’re just going to keep exacerbating the issue by not addressing a lot of the things that lead to it.

The thing that you failed to mention was high corporate taxes, unions, and overregulation.

I’m not saying there shouldn’t be corporate taxes, unions, or regulation, but acting like everything else you listed is in a bubble is obtuse.
Posted by Centinel
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Posted on 9/21/21 at 5:49 pm to
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That is what it will take to make it profitable for most consumer goods to be manufactured here. How much of that are you willing and able to deal with?


So your solution is?

Posted by Water
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Posted on 9/21/21 at 6:02 pm to
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