re: When did society start looking down on blue collar jobs?

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driving a truck

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Do you not think there's a reason only a certain class of people go into these jobs? It's not all just social constructs. Truck drivers have a shite ton of health issues.

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The reason you may be right is that he tries to find people to hand over business he cannot take and they always screw it up

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That's the issue.

In these skilled trades where you can make a lot, you often get guys who go nuts because of all that money.

My plumber has a bang up and growing plumbing contracting and now HVAC business. He likely doesn’t feel he is looked down upon.

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How many times have you thought about how important it is to have garbage men?

Imagine our world without them.

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How much do you think they make? They aren't paid like they're that important.

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How many times have you thought about how important it is to have garbage men?

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We have a national holiday today because of events that unfolded surrounding a garbage worker strike

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Turnaround work and operations in the plants do way better than alot of four year bachelor degree careers.

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A lot better in regards to income, or quality of life? I feel like a lot of people focus solely on income when comparing blue collar and white collar jobs. Yes, someone in operations may be making 150k, but they are working 12-14 hour shifts, weekends, holidays, and are essentially at the will of their employer. Maybe that's worth it to some people, maybe it's not. But it should all be taken into account.

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It's actually very uncommon, not impossible, but definitely uncommon. Anyone that argues differently has no interest in being honest.

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Yea an 18 y/o starting out isn’t gonna make $100k typically, in Louisiana. Most I know after 5-6 years getting all their licenses and certifications typically make pretty close. My nephew is 19 and works HVAC and made $80k last year

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30-40% of those jobs in the country and it's less than 2k?

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Nah 30-40% of control room jobs aren’t in the LA and SETX. Just think of how many power plants there are in the US to power the grid for 350 million people.

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I make my own schedule

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So, you work zero weekends and holidays?

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A lot better in regards to income, or quality of life? I feel like a lot of people focus solely on income when comparing blue collar and white collar jobs. Yes, someone in operations may be making 150k, but they are working 12-14 hour shifts, weekends, holidays, and are essentially at the will of their employer. Maybe that's worth it to some people, maybe it's not. But it should all be taken into account.

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Yep, when I worked the outage circuit I put in a minimum of 84 hrs/week while I was working. But as to quality of life, I took off about 5 months/year and still had more $$$ than my college neighbors.

Good point though. I have engineers, on this very job, complaining about working more than 40, yet not getting paid for it. That has never, ever happened to me. Blue collar, white collar...it doesn't matter. We are all beholden to our employer. At least I get paid for it.