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re: What’s your solution for the homeless?

Posted on 12/27/23 at 2:32 pm to
Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
23661 posts
Posted on 12/27/23 at 2:32 pm to
Reopen insane asylums en masse
Posted by HerbEaverstinks
Member since Jan 2011
4489 posts
Posted on 12/27/23 at 2:59 pm to
People see homeless and get mad. They see a stray dog or cat and get emotional.

Make homeless people pets. Think about it. You could own a real German Shepherd!
Posted by SlidellCajun
Slidell la
Member since May 2019
13523 posts
Posted on 12/27/23 at 3:11 pm to
I’ve come a long way in how I view homelessness

It’s a problem that has been enhanced by the prevalence of opiate addiction and big pharma.


There’s no easy fix.


Until such time as people die off, cities can mask the issue by housing these people but that can be expensive and most of these facilities disallow drugs /alcohol which runs many to the street.

Unfortunately, there are political motives behind some of the solutions with financial incentive. There are large contractors cutting deals with municipalities to “fix” the problem but they’re really cashing in on taxpayer dollars.
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
78916 posts
Posted on 12/27/23 at 4:11 pm to
Most of them are breaking laws.


Its time for an intervention.

You go to jail or you go into treatment.

Coming off opioids in jail sounds awful, id take the treatment.



This post was edited on 12/27/23 at 4:12 pm
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
78916 posts
Posted on 12/27/23 at 4:14 pm to
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Many who are homeless are self medicating with mental issues. Jimmy Carter passed the best mental health bill in the history of the USofA and Ronnie killed it when he got in office. To add insult to injury Ronnie signed the laws to close the long term locked care facilitates that treated the population that needed it and converted to mental health care by police. Not only does it not work, but it also costs about 8 x of the old long term locked facilities.

Hey, we privatized jail / prison under Ronnie and they had to fill the beds some way.



I'll go a step further. the medical community ran a very aggressive ad campaign for opioids and our country is now dope sick. they shouldn't be allowed to prescribe it or kill someone using it in a hospital setting where they then have to use Narcan to bring you back.

So are these people mentally ill and smoking fentanyl or are they mentally ill because they smoke fentanyl?

And lets say we had a bunch of insane asylums. Will these drug addicts living on the street check themselves in, or would they stay living on the streets where they get free food and money and can continue to do their drugs?


Thats why you need intervention. Most of these people will never take the steps themselves. They are living the life free of responsibility.



This post was edited on 12/27/23 at 4:22 pm
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
78916 posts
Posted on 12/27/23 at 4:20 pm to
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Reopen insane asylums en masse


You going to go to san fran or philly and pick these people up and take them?

Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
281843 posts
Posted on 12/27/23 at 4:56 pm to
All decent solutions have terrible tradeoffs regarding the homeless. The more you feed it, the more homeless you get. If you stop feeding it, society complains and protests which makes re-election difficult.

Too many modern folk have idealistic solutions which are expensive and dont work. YOu have to improve your people, or let them fall to their fate. Propping them up doesnt work.
You cannot save everyone.
Posted by Willie Stroker
Member since Sep 2008
14476 posts
Posted on 12/27/23 at 5:44 pm to
Why do people think there is a solution to something that has always been “a feature” of the human condition?
Posted by MyRockstarComplex
The airport
Member since Nov 2009
4339 posts
Posted on 12/27/23 at 5:52 pm to
We could send them to fight in Ukraine instead of sending billions.
Posted by DiamondDog
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2019
11917 posts
Posted on 12/27/23 at 6:04 pm to
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What would Jesus do?


Go read about Jesus' parable about the talents. Jesus was no fan of a bunch of layabouts.
Posted by blueagateblues
Member since Sep 2022
252 posts
Posted on 6/29/24 at 12:41 pm to
"fewer"
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
84096 posts
Posted on 6/29/24 at 12:44 pm to
Helicopter Rides. A good protein source for marine life.
Posted by OWLFAN86
Erotic Novelist
Member since Jun 2004
188619 posts
Posted on 6/29/24 at 12:46 pm to
It's a mental health which develops into an addiction issue but until you're dealing with a mental health issue you gotta just let them be

Even if you go out round them all up you gotta do something with them and once you let them back out it's gonna be worse
Posted by lsudave1
Baton Metairie
Member since Jan 2005
9758 posts
Posted on 6/29/24 at 12:46 pm to
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Bring back insane asylums


Psychiatric hospital employee here. I think this solution is probably correct, but it’s damn near impossible to pull this off. The turnover rate of employees in mental institutions makes it impossible to run large psychiatric facilities appropriately. A lot of the abuse in the large state run hospitals in the past was a result of understaffing.
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
68929 posts
Posted on 6/29/24 at 12:47 pm to
Put them in work camps where they do things like road maintenance, clean-up, etc. keep them under strict lockdown with access to nothing other than the food and water provided.

That or exterminate them.
Posted by kbtigers85
Member since Apr 2024
1461 posts
Posted on 6/29/24 at 12:54 pm to
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What would Jesus do?

I’m not Jesus nor a Christian so I don’t really care.
Posted by OWLFAN86
Erotic Novelist
Member since Jun 2004
188619 posts
Posted on 6/29/24 at 12:56 pm to
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Psychiatric hospital employee here. I think this solution is probably correct, but it’s damn near impossible to pull this off. The turnover rate of employees in mental institutions makes it impossible to run large psychiatric facilities appropriately. A lot of the abuse in the large state run hospitals in the past was a result of understaffing.
All the unemployed social workers and people who've had their college loans repaid or forgiven people bitchin' about being fired from Starbucks because they formed a union


there are plenty of people available to work on this problem. its becomes the facilities issue which all these empty roadside motel 8's that China and India have been building


synergy
Posted by Fat and Happy
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2013
18559 posts
Posted on 6/29/24 at 12:57 pm to
Concentration camps
Posted by kbtigers85
Member since Apr 2024
1461 posts
Posted on 6/29/24 at 12:58 pm to
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So are these people mentally ill and smoking fentanyl or are they mentally ill because they smoke fentanyl?

Probably neither considering you don’t smoke fentanyl.
Posted by everytrueson
West Hollywood, CA
Member since Mar 2012
6908 posts
Posted on 6/29/24 at 1:01 pm to
Here in LA we put them up in luxury towers

Posted this on the Poli board last night. It’s insane.
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