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re: What's your opinion on Huey Long?

Posted on 2/22/18 at 2:04 pm to
Posted by damnedoldtigah
Middle of Louisiana
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 2/22/18 at 2:04 pm to
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I find it weird a conservative state like Louisiana was voting for socialists in the 1920s-30s.


Empty stomachs have a way of influencing your politics.
Posted by The Midnight Rider
Where the River Empties
Member since May 2015
1576 posts
Posted on 2/22/18 at 2:05 pm to
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In conclusion, Huey Long was a man of contrasts.



Seriously.

Although I see the people that support him listing actual, measurable reasons for it. While those that opposed him are just saying things like "HE'S A SLIMEBALL!" or "HE WAS CORRUPT!"
Posted by soccerfüt
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Posted on 2/22/18 at 2:20 pm to
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You can say what you want about his politics and his ethics but he was the best friend LSU ever had. If only today's leaders would take LSU and higher education that seriously and I am including Republicans and Democrats. T. Harry Williams' book is one of the best biographies I have ever read. Louisiana's politics has a lot of flaws but there is no denying that it is some of the most entertaining around and Huey set the tone for that.
Your point here is valid in the short-term only.

Huey Long and those crappy/crooked/inept/ignorant (choose at least one) politicians who followed after him for the next 60+ years have, through their graft, greed, and/or ineptitude retarded development of Louisiana and Louisianans to a much greater degree than the crumbs they have given to LSU or the other educational "institutions" of the State.

Witness the State of North Carolina (specifically UNC & NC State) over the same past 90 years.

We've had LS&U futbul and we gettin' a million dollars for our band uniforms and fricked the Oil Industry's eyeballs out (chasing them all off to Houston) compared to a State which didn't ALWAYS extort at every chance any new business trying to locate there.
Posted by The Midnight Rider
Where the River Empties
Member since May 2015
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Posted on 2/22/18 at 2:26 pm to
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fricked the Oil Industry's eyeballs out

Putting aside the point that it is high-time to ween ourselves off of the dependency on oil anyway, given that it's a dying industry, I'm curious if this statement is also meant to apply to Long? Because others in this thread are claiming he was so in bed with big oil that it set the tone for today's unsustainable dependency.
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
37494 posts
Posted on 2/22/18 at 2:49 pm to
Huey Long was a progressive socialist type who was corrupt and somewhat criminal. He also, increased funding for LSU(Not just Tiger Stadium) Got the government to help fund for major highways into the state, particularly Hwy 90 and 61 so as to get to New Orleans and Baton Rouge.

Those that excoriate the man have no idea how backwards Louisiana was prior to 1924 and how indifferent the state government was towards anything that would benefit the state as a whole. The governors prior to Long were just as corrupt if not more. At least when Huey stole, he gave something back. He put LSU on the map.

Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
27843 posts
Posted on 2/22/18 at 2:53 pm to
And the stomachs were empty because of socialist policies and central government policies on money and actual pricing of goods.
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
53509 posts
Posted on 2/22/18 at 2:54 pm to
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Got the government to help fund for major highways into the state, particularly Hwy 90 and 61 so as to get to New Orleans and Baton Rouge.


You know who else built highways?

Hitler.

Huey Long was kind of like Father Coughlin but with political power.
This post was edited on 2/22/18 at 2:56 pm
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 2/22/18 at 2:55 pm to
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Those that excoriate the man have no idea how backwards Louisiana was prior to 1924


Those that defend him fail to explain just how every other backward southern state of the time achieved the aforementioned paved roads, state universities, bridges and everything else WITHOUT a criminal as governor.

Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 2/22/18 at 2:57 pm to
I am tired of all that crap about how he helped the poor. It is as if there were no poor in other states and as if Louisiana was unique in that it had free text books and some paved roads.

Give me a break.
Posted by The Midnight Rider
Where the River Empties
Member since May 2015
1576 posts
Posted on 2/22/18 at 3:08 pm to
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Those that defend him fail to explain just how every other backward southern state of the time achieved the aforementioned paved roads, state universities, bridges and everything else WITHOUT a criminal as governor.


As far as I can tell, his "criminal" actions were all undertaken to help the poor and modernize the state...because the political machine the was established before him and the wealthy elite that opposed him were desperate to keep Louisiana's established hierarchy and prevent his agenda from being achieved at all costs.

Like I've been saying in this thread, can you give me actual tangible proof of his criminal and corrupt actions that ONLY served himself?? I genuinely want to know what I shouldn't admire about the man. Otherwise, keep your grandpappy's ramblings to yourself please.

The uphill battle he fought at every turn is precisely why he's revered and admired by the middle and lower classes and admonished by the wealthy and entrenched members of the established order.

I'll say it again, he dragged this state kicking and screaming into the 20th century, and people like you are the ones who have ensured it has since stayed there. We'd probably still be taking gravel roads to some towns and sending a majority of kids out of state for college if it wasn't for Long.
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
53509 posts
Posted on 2/22/18 at 3:10 pm to
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We'd probably still be taking gravel roads to some towns and sending a majority of kids out of state for college if it wasn't for Long.


This post was edited on 2/22/18 at 3:12 pm
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
53509 posts
Posted on 2/22/18 at 3:12 pm to
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Like I've been saying in this thread, can you give me actual tangible proof of his criminal and corrupt actions that ONLY served himself??


The deduct box?
Posted by The Midnight Rider
Where the River Empties
Member since May 2015
1576 posts
Posted on 2/22/18 at 3:12 pm to
Ah yes, because Louisiana is certainly known for being progressive! A bastion of modern society are we!!

Be real, son.
Posted by The Midnight Rider
Where the River Empties
Member since May 2015
1576 posts
Posted on 2/22/18 at 3:13 pm to
Wasn't the deduct box used to fund stuff he couldn't get support for?
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
53509 posts
Posted on 2/22/18 at 3:15 pm to
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Wasn't the deduct box used to fund stuff he couldn't get support for?


It is expensive being king.
Posted by soccerfüt
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Posted on 2/22/18 at 3:21 pm to
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At least when Huey stole, he gave something back. He put LSU on the map.
You would have made a wonderful Third Reich citizen in the 1930s.

Long only allowed things to be funded as a way to consolidate his own power and wealth through his patronage and cronies.

He did nada FOR the State or it's unfortunate citizenry out of the "goodness" of his heart.
Posted by Nawlens Gator
louisiana
Member since Sep 2005
5960 posts
Posted on 2/22/18 at 3:25 pm to

Like him or not, the man was genius.

Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 2/22/18 at 3:25 pm to
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frickin crook and thief that set the tone for La politics forever. You can blame the widespread corruption in large part on him.


And yet he and his family are honored and treated like royalty. Bridges, roads, statues, buildings, hospitals, schools etc all names after them. I’m offended
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
105273 posts
Posted on 2/22/18 at 3:35 pm to
Nobody does anything out of the goodness of their own heart in Louisiana, certainly not before and damn few after. To understand Long you have to understand his environment. A coalition of New Orleans bankers and North La. planters had ruled Louisiana since the end of Reconstruction, abetted in the latter part of that period by Standard Oil. Literally nothing happened in this state that did not directly benefit them. Long broke that stranglehold, and for it he deserves credit.

BTW this was also the Genesis of the rest of the state's hostility toward New Orleans. Nola lorded it over the common rural folk for 200 years and they still hate the city for it. Even moreso because the tables are turned and the city is a shambles sucking money from the rest of the state. Whether 9th ward welfare recipient or Uptown blueblood, upstate doesn't give a rat's arse about you
This post was edited on 2/22/18 at 3:40 pm
Posted by soccerfüt
Location: A Series of Tubes
Member since May 2013
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Posted on 2/22/18 at 3:38 pm to
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Like him or not, the man was genius.
A bit skrong but whatever.

I’d term him (like EWE) with less flattering a word before “genius” like flawed or evil.
This post was edited on 2/22/18 at 3:40 pm
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