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re: What’s your opinion of paid maternity/paternity leave?
Posted on 8/12/24 at 7:00 am to UlteriorTaco
Posted on 8/12/24 at 7:00 am to UlteriorTaco
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Only benefits women.
That is simply not true. It benefits families. If the employer thinks it is in their best interest it can be a powerful enticement to recruit and retain young talent. Young talent is less expensive overall than older talent, if it works for the employer. Many companies are seeing their employees retire at a rapid pace...if that employer can use a relatively inexpensive benefit to recruit young talent at less salary its a brilliant move. I have seen it work in the one instance I am aware of....that company swears by it and repaying student loan debt. I assume that company is competent - they pay my invoices on time, that's all I need to know.
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Posted on 8/12/24 at 7:02 am to notiger1997
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Our company gives the women 4 months of paid leave and the men 2 months.
I worked with an engineer who went out for leave and when he came back I asked how things were going and he started showing me pictures of the shop that he built while he was out.
So it worked for him and his employer. Win win. He may have built a shop but he was around for those 2 months. He was more readily available than he would have been had he been on the job. Presumably the employer is competent and knows what is in their best interest.
Posted on 8/12/24 at 7:03 am to Deuces
Should be fricking mandatory these days because everything is so god damned expensive that a mother typically has to work and it’s a struggle to have a mother not working for that long.
Posted on 8/12/24 at 7:04 am to Rouge
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If men have no say in whether women bring a child to term or not, women should have no say on whether men take leave off of work or not.
Men have the ultimate, foundational say in whether a woman brings a child to term or not....the man can simply say no to sex. No sex, no choice needed. Unless of course he is raped.
Posted on 8/12/24 at 7:04 am to Deuces
I don't think a company should be forced to offer it. If they do, awesome. I'd take it in a heartbeat if I could.
Posted on 8/12/24 at 7:08 am to Loup
I think with a lot of private companies, if they can figure out how to cover your job for months, you have a much higher chance to get laid off in the future.
Posted on 8/12/24 at 7:08 am to Allthatfades
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Maternity leave yes but a man doesn’t need months worth of leave when a baby is born.
Huge paintbrush here.
I do a LOT of work with the military. Lots of young women in the military who start a family while in the military. Their schedule is not as flexible as an employee in the private sector, when the military tells them to jump they jump. The US military is an extremely successful employer. What they determine is best for their business is up to them. It very well could be that the father is the ONLY option for the child's first months....it varies among individuals. If that father is employed and their employer determines it is in their best interest to provide paternity leave who is in a position to question that outside of the father and their employer?
Posted on 8/12/24 at 7:19 am to Dadren
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I swear to mercy, there are people in this thread that don’t believe fathers are parents.
Our society views men as sperm donors only because men make the rules and like to have sex but do not like to take responsibility for the end result. The examples of this are too many to list but the number of children born in our society who receive little or no support, emotionally or financially, from their father without any penalty to the father at all is huge. If I could wave a magic wand and change anything about our society it would be to make it a crime with severe penalties to father a child and disappear financially and emotionally. Even those of us who provide financially support for the result of our sexual escapades are often remiss in paying the bill emotionally.
Posted on 8/12/24 at 7:22 am to Jake88
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Paid? Only if the company voluntarily offers it. Otherwise, it's just more free shite.
No competent employer is giving anything to their employees. A properly managed employer manages costs and their employees and in that organization every penny of compensation, either salary or benefits, is paid for by the production of said employee. I assume there are incompetent employers who are not properly managing their business who may give away shite to their employees but that company is not going to last long doing so.
Posted on 8/12/24 at 7:23 am to Norbert
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Hell, the first 2-3 WEEKS of a newborn’s life are oftentimes simply the calm before the storm.
Yep. I got 6 weeks off, wife got 12. The first 2 weeks I was like hey this is easy, I might get some stuff done. Nope. After 2 weeks they stop doing things by reflex and basically have to learn it all again.
It was a huge help to be home for the first 6 weeks. My wife breastfed the whole time so I couldn't really help with feeding, but I did everything else within my power while she healed up. She didn't change a diaper the first 6 weeks. I kept the house clean, food made, brought the baby back and forth between the bassinet and mom if she didn't feel good enough to get up. My wife will tell you that having me around for those 6 weeks are what kept her from getting some hellish postpartum depression. I'll tell anyone who will listen how big of a benefit paid parental leave is.
Posted on 8/12/24 at 7:24 am to Deuces
There should be some societal support for having children.
Posted on 8/12/24 at 7:25 am to Deuces
I just had a guy who works for me in a commissioned sales job out for a month..I think it's great for the scared first time Mom and bonding, but ridiculous if you are the breadwinner and need to but all those expensive diapers.
Posted on 8/12/24 at 7:29 am to bayoubengals88
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Scandinavians get this right.
They take the money they would be paying for national defense and fund such programs because you and I foot most of the bill for their national defense. I admire the European social safety net but I realize how it is funded. We could do the same in the US if we decided to do so. Might mean fewer multi-billionaires, and might not, who knows, but we can't take the risk because it is a slippery slope to soviet style communism.
Posted on 8/12/24 at 7:32 am to North Dallas Tiger
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My opinion is that it should be at the sole discretion of the employer.
100% correct. Should be encouraged through tax benefits though. Should never be mandated, in my opinion, because no one is in a position to know what works for every employer except the employer.
Posted on 8/12/24 at 7:35 am to ljhog
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Surely you calculate the "cost" of that benefit and account for it in salaries/wages.
Goes without saying if the business is viable and has been for any length of time....this is what managing a business entails, managing costs. You either do it or not, either way costs are covered by revenue or they are not. It is entirely possible, I guess, that a business can blindly plod along and be viable, but I would posit that is a rare exception to a hard and undeniable rule that managing a business means managing costs.
Posted on 8/12/24 at 7:36 am to Hampton
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Grandmothers, sisters, aunts, and friends help out.
They do when they are around and capable. Not always around and capable.
Posted on 8/12/24 at 7:39 am to Norbert
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Our company has ample vacation time and 10 sick days that can all be used for paternity/maternity leave.
Employees who decide not to have children aren’t really penalized. They just use those days for other things.
I agree, any complaints from older employees is merely sour grapes, it is not based on anything tangible. They may have a valid point with shifting work load as a result but they are also free to seek employment elsewhere.
Posted on 8/12/24 at 7:39 am to SneezyBeltranIsHere
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Any guy taking more than a day is a woke loser who is hurting his company and the economy.
One day from check in doesn’t even get the baby home from the hospital for most people
Posted on 8/12/24 at 7:48 am to Deuces
I look at it like this ..when I was single, the new parents were constantly leaving early, calling in etc and stuff got pushed to my desk. Now as a parent, I get it. And paternity leave not only allows new parents to be focused on their new roles, it allows for more consistency in the office.
The one part that irks me is the extreme flexibility of it.
People hoarding it for extended Christmas or spring break trips
The one part that irks me is the extreme flexibility of it.
People hoarding it for extended Christmas or spring break trips
Posted on 8/12/24 at 7:48 am to Deuces
men that take maternity leave contribute to the welfare state. The greatest generations of America didn't have this shite. I would dare say most of your fathers didn't do this crap. It seems only soft soy boys do it and find excuses to do it. I would dare say a lot of the leaders and men that are looked up today didn't have fathers that did it. Prove me wrong
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