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re: What's the point of memorizing states and capitals?

Posted on 11/6/17 at 8:28 pm to
Posted by BoardReader
Arkansas
Member since Dec 2007
7414 posts
Posted on 11/6/17 at 8:28 pm to
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Sure, but what value is it?


The cultivation of an ordered, practiced, and thorough mind.

An engagement in the order of their nation and civilization; an acknowledgement of the layered nature of American self-government.

And not being a douche who can't hold up a basic conversation.
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 11/6/17 at 8:46 pm to
Wolfram alpha does better than i ever did.
I memorized some parts of the trig tables until i stumbled onto an explanation for identities.
Posted by Martini
Near Athens
Member since Mar 2005
49697 posts
Posted on 11/6/17 at 8:52 pm to
So people don't think you are a dumbass.
Posted by foshizzle
Washington DC metro
Member since Mar 2008
40599 posts
Posted on 11/6/17 at 9:03 pm to
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Whats the point of going to school if we can just google everything right?


Because Google will present everything - true and false both.

Everyone needs a good bullshite filter. The problem is that hardly anyone has one, especially when it comes to "facts" that agree with what one already believes.

If you believe in Google, then you'll search for what you want to believe.
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
62315 posts
Posted on 11/6/17 at 9:06 pm to
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What's the point of memorizing states and capitals?


Because in the future, if the electronic grid is knocked out and the terrorist tell you to name a certain state capital or die, you'll survive!
Posted by tss22h8
30.4 N 90.9 W
Member since Jan 2007
18793 posts
Posted on 11/6/17 at 10:12 pm to
It's a good memory exercise.
Posted by go ta hell ole miss
Member since Jan 2007
14798 posts
Posted on 11/6/17 at 10:45 pm to
Virtually anything can be looked up on the internet? Guess they should stop school now that we have they internet, huh?
Posted by EA6B
TX
Member since Dec 2012
14754 posts
Posted on 11/6/17 at 11:14 pm to
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I'm with you. Who needs math, we all have calculators on our phones as well.


Recently found that when multiplying a number by 12 on my IPhone it produces the wrong answer, still trying to find out how to fix it. If I were not in the habit of estimating the answer in my head I would have accepted the answer as correct, ordered the wrong quantity of material and wasted a lot of money.
Posted by alajones
Huntsvegas
Member since Oct 2005
35974 posts
Posted on 11/6/17 at 11:37 pm to
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If they taught critical and creative thinking, it would be better for the kids, but that simultaneously takes a lot more than our teachers are capable/willing to give and is much, much harder to test/evaluate.


That’s pretty much all Social Studies teachers teach. Creative thinking, making connections, evaluating and analyzing situations are all expectedly students to know. No one is tested on trivia anymore.

The elementary schools are letting the kids down on map skills and geography though. I’m a middle school teacher and most of my kids couldn’t find Asia on a map.
This post was edited on 11/6/17 at 11:38 pm
Posted by IllegalPete
Front Range
Member since Oct 2017
7182 posts
Posted on 11/7/17 at 1:11 am to
Off the top of my head with no map:

Honolulu
Juneau
Olympia
Portland?
Sacramento

Boise
Carson City
Salt Lake City
Phoenix
Santa Fe

Denver?
Cheyenne
Missoula?
Bismark
Pierre

Lawrence?
OKC
Austin
Little Rock
Des Moines

St Cloud
Madison
Chicago?
Indianapolis
Nashville

Biloxi?
Baton Rouge
Birmingham
Atlanta
Tallahassee

Columbia
Raleigh
Roanoke?
Lexington
Charleston

Columbus
Ann Arbor
Philadelphia?
Albany
Phish

Walter White
Lobster
Bahstan
Hartford
Providence

Trenton
Dover
Baltimore

Oh yeah, forgot about these 2:
Lincoln
Simpsons


Jesus I feel dumb.

ETA: 35/50
This post was edited on 11/7/17 at 1:23 am
Posted by Triggerr
Member since Jul 2013
2028 posts
Posted on 11/7/17 at 6:07 am to
Mine doing the same thing right now. I feel like I'm back in elementary school with them doing all this homework. They are taught some pointless shite, but you can't tell a teacher anything about the world outside of the doors of the school building
Posted by AUsteriskPride
Albuquerque, NM
Member since Feb 2011
18385 posts
Posted on 11/7/17 at 8:13 am to
Kids need to work different areas of their brains, why not flex the memorization muscle on learning about different states?
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
64071 posts
Posted on 11/7/17 at 8:20 am to
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Kids spending time On this when It can be looked up in a phone in 1 minute.


Why do you want to raise ignorant children?
Posted by nc14
La Jolla
Member since Jan 2012
28193 posts
Posted on 11/7/17 at 8:30 am to
I Googled your question and learned that there are more village idiots out there than one would think.
Posted by TigerCoon
Member since Nov 2005
22476 posts
Posted on 11/7/17 at 8:30 am to
Years ago, I had a grown arse, native-born American adult try to tell me that Virginia wasn't the name of a state. He contended West Virginia was a state, but "just Virginia" is not the name of a state.

I replied that I had friends in Fairfax and Arlington who would be very surprised to learn this info, and let it go.

This was pre-Google. I am guessing that in a few years, kids will be able to ask just about anything on the web in natural English, and get reasonable answers (play around with Wolfram Alpha). That's not a substitute for having an intellect. We can't walk around stupid.
Posted by nc14
La Jolla
Member since Jan 2012
28193 posts
Posted on 11/7/17 at 8:32 am to
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We can't walk around stupid.


Well that's as untrue as there not being a Virginia.
Posted by LCA131
Home of the Fake Sig lines
Member since Feb 2008
77716 posts
Posted on 11/7/17 at 8:33 am to
What if there was a lack of cell service because of... you know, like terrorists and a terrorist was holding you at gunpoint, and like, they asked your child the capital of Montana or they would shoot you. You ever think of THAT?

It's IMPORTANT.
Posted by nc14
La Jolla
Member since Jan 2012
28193 posts
Posted on 11/7/17 at 8:53 am to
Yes I did. That poor terrorist would die.
Posted by Byron Bojangles III
Member since Nov 2012
52814 posts
Posted on 11/7/17 at 8:54 am to
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States and capitals should be common knowledge. It isn't hard.
bet you couldn't name the state capitol of South Dakota without Google
Posted by YouAre8Up
in a house
Member since Mar 2011
12792 posts
Posted on 11/7/17 at 8:56 am to
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Kids spending time On this when It can be looked up in a phone in 1 minute.


Exactly where being lazy and entitled begins.
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