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re: What's scarier, the idea that we are alone in the universe or the idea that we aren't?
Posted on 5/18/20 at 11:44 am to ParrotMafia
Posted on 5/18/20 at 11:44 am to ParrotMafia
Not scary if we're alone in the universe bc there's no threat of malevolent extraterrestrials coming to eat our brains.
Posted on 5/18/20 at 11:54 am to ParrotMafia
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the idea that we are alone in the universe
Why? Because if the human race is the pinnacle of the universe, something went wrong or we're past our peak.
Posted on 5/18/20 at 12:03 pm to ParrotMafia
All the more reason for the Space Force, baby!
Posted on 5/18/20 at 12:05 pm to MDB
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It is also quite numerically possible that many advanced, intelligent civilizations were born, flourished and then disappeared long before we got our start.
Star Wars took place about 4.6 billion years ago.
Posted on 5/18/20 at 12:07 pm to ParrotMafia
Both are equally terrifying
Posted on 5/18/20 at 12:08 pm to LB84
Never mind. I thought you said Iceland
This post was edited on 5/18/20 at 12:09 pm
Posted on 5/18/20 at 12:16 pm to ParrotMafia
No one knows the answer to this one. One thing that is for certain, unless we or they (assuming other intelligent life exists) develop/has developed a way to warp space time, neither us nor they will ever know. Universe is too vast, even traveling at the speed of light, to thoroughly explore. It would still be like trying to find a specific needle in a beach full of needles.
Posted on 5/18/20 at 12:17 pm to ParrotMafia
To me, I think the fact that Earth is just one speck of dust floating in an endless universe scarier.
Life exists outside of Earth, but the universe is so immense, I doubt we ever find it.
Life exists outside of Earth, but the universe is so immense, I doubt we ever find it.
Posted on 5/18/20 at 12:18 pm to Green Chili Tiger
But do those other planets have the OT?
Posted on 5/18/20 at 12:19 pm to ParrotMafia
Wouldn’t say that either really scares me that much, but I’d much rather mankind be alone in the universe as opposed to having something out there that is possibly way more advanced and way more likely to view us as food, labor, or pests.
Posted on 5/18/20 at 12:21 pm to ParrotMafia
Posted on 5/18/20 at 12:21 pm to MDB
Everyone else in the universe is alone too.
Posted on 5/18/20 at 12:26 pm to ParrotMafia
I'm one that seriously doubts we are the only planet that houses life in the vastness of the universe. To think we are is supremely arrogant in my opinion.
The idea of extraterrestrial life existing is in itself not scary, but the idea they may be so much more advanced in technology to be able to make their presence known on Earth is a bit daunting.
It could wind up being like the Spaniards discovering South America and taking over existing civilizations with advanced weapons and the spread of diseases the natives had no immunity to.
Sure would put a much different twist on many of the current worlds religions. I'm sure the Catholics would find a way around it to keep the tithing coming in on Sundays.
The idea of extraterrestrial life existing is in itself not scary, but the idea they may be so much more advanced in technology to be able to make their presence known on Earth is a bit daunting.
It could wind up being like the Spaniards discovering South America and taking over existing civilizations with advanced weapons and the spread of diseases the natives had no immunity to.
Sure would put a much different twist on many of the current worlds religions. I'm sure the Catholics would find a way around it to keep the tithing coming in on Sundays.
Posted on 5/18/20 at 1:01 pm to ParrotMafia
It is mathematically impossible for us to be alone. What is scary is the scale. The distance in space is so large that there is no way for even light to span across it. Just trying to understand the difference between visible and detectable universe hurts my brain.
Posted on 5/18/20 at 1:18 pm to ParrotMafia
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What's scarier, the idea that we are alone in the universe or the idea that we aren't?
What about both
We think we are alone (perhaps by design), but we inhabit a different reality that does not allow us to typically perceive "others"...
Again, view this as inputs that allow connections to another reality (possibly even base reality...) as opposed to altering our "real" reality...
This is a study out of Johns Hopkins for those needing credentials to vet...
https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/0269881120916143
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Survey of entity encounter experiences occasioned by inhaled N,N-dimethyltryptamine: Phenomenology, interpretation, and enduring effects
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Alan K Davis, John M Clifton, Eric G Weaver, Ethan S Hurwitz, Matthew W Johnson, Roland R Griffiths
First Published April 28, 2020 Research Article Find in PubMed
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Abstract
Background:
Experiences of having an encounter with seemingly autonomous entities are sometimes reported after inhaling N,N-dimethyltryptamine.
Aim:
The study characterized the subjective phenomena, interpretation, and persisting changes that people attribute to N,N-dimethyltryptamine-occasioned entity encounter experiences.
Methods:
Two thousand, five hundred and sixty-one individuals (mean age 32 years; 77% male) completed an online survey about their single most memorable entity encounter after taking N,N-dimethyltryptamine.
Results:
Respondents reported the primary senses involved in the encounter were visual and extrasensory (e.g. telepathic). The most common descriptive labels for the entity were being, guide, spirit, alien, and helper. Although 41% of respondents reported fear during the encounter, the most prominent emotions both in the respondent and attributed to the entity were love, kindness, and joy. Most respondents endorsed that the entity had the attributes of being conscious, intelligent, and benevolent, existed in some real but different dimension of reality, and continued to exist after the encounter. Respondents endorsed receiving a message (69%) or a prediction about the future (19%) from the experience. More than half of those who identified as atheist before the experience no longer identified as atheist afterwards. The experiences were rated as among the most meaningful, spiritual, and psychologically insightful lifetime experiences, with persisting positive changes in life satisfaction, purpose, and meaning attributed to the experiences.
Conclusion:
N,N-dimethyltryptamine-occasioned entity encounter experiences have many similarities to non-drug entity encounter experiences such as those described in religious, alien abduction, and near-death contexts. Aspects of the experience and its interpretation produced profound and enduring ontological changes in worldview.
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Results
Details of the most memorable entity encounter
As shown in Table 3, 21% of respondents went into the experience with the intention of having an encounter experience, with most (69%) reporting that the entity initiated the encounter. The primary senses involved in the encounter were visual (92%), extrasensory (e.g. telepathic; 85%), auditory (54%), and touch (34%), with less than 10% reporting taste or smell. Most respondents indicated that some form of communication occurred in the encounter, with 49% reporting the communication was one-way (from entity to respondent) and 40% two-way. Very few (2%) respondents reported one-way (respondent to entity) communication.
Table 3 also shows that respondents selected a variety of descriptive labels for the entity. The most commonly endorsed were “being,” (60%) “guide,” (43%) “spirit,” (39%) “alien,” (39%) or “helper” (34%). Other labels selected by small proportions of respondents (range 10–16%), included the terms “angel,” “elf,” “religious personage,” or “plant spirit,” and very few (range 1–5%) reporting the terms “gnome,” “monster,” or a “deceased” person. Most respondents reported having had an emotional response to the experience (99%). Respondents reported experiencing joy (65%), trust (63%), surprise (61%), love (59%), kindness (56%), friendship (48%), and fear (41%) during the encounter experience, with smaller proportions reporting emotions such as sadness (13%), distrust (10%), disgust (4%), or anger (3%). In another question, respondents reported that love (21%) was the single most prominent emotion experienced during the encounter. Over one-half (58%) reported that the entity also had an emotional reaction to the encounter. The single most prominent emotion that the entity appeared to have was love (17%), kindness (11%), or joy (10%), with low rates (?2%) of emotions with a negative valence (e.g. anger, fear, distrust, disgust, sadness).
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Conclusion
The present survey study is the largest to date to provide detailed information about the subjective phenomena, interpretation, and persisting changes attributed to experiences people report about having an encounter with a seemingly autonomous entity after inhaling DMT. Aspects of the experience and its interpretation had metaphysical implications for most (80%) of the respondents about their fundamental understanding of the nature of reality. For example, most respondents indicated that the entity had the attributes of being conscious, intelligent, and benevolent, existed in some real but different dimension of reality, and continued to exist after the encounter. These experiences were also rated as among the most meaningful, spiritual, and psychologically insightful lifetime experiences, with persisting positive changes in life satisfaction, purpose and meaning attributed to the experiences. More than half of those who identified as atheist before the experience no longer identified as atheist afterwards. Although further research is needed to provide more information about causality and mechanisms (Winkelman, 2018), it is possible that the “ontological shock” occasioned by these vivid unusual experiences may play an important role in the enduring positive life changes in attitudes, moods, and behavior attributed to these experiences. As such, it is possible that, under appropriate supportive set and setting conditions, DMT could show promise as an adjunct to therapy for people with mood and behavioral problems (e.g. depression and addiction). However, regardless of whether or not DMT will be shown to have therapeutic efficacy, future double-blind human laboratory studies investigating dose-effects and correlated brain activity may provide a unique window into the psychological and biological nature of such anomalous subjective experiences of encounters with nonhuman entities that date back to the beginnings of recorded human history.
Posted on 5/19/20 at 1:07 pm to ThinePreparedAni
https://www.newsweek.com/taking-dmt-can-lead-experiences-similar-those-reported-people-who-claim-have-been-abducted-1504750
Some of us are not crazy, we are just ahead of the curve (and poorly understood...)
Stay curious...
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TAKING DMT CAN LEAD TO EXPERIENCES SIMILAR TO THOSE REPORTED BY PEOPLE WHO CLAIM TO HAVE BEEN ABDUCTED BY ALIENS, STUDY SHOWS
BY KASHMIRA GANDER ON 5/18/20 AT 8:47 AM EDT
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Roland Griffiths, professor of psychiatry, behavioral sciences and neuroscience at the Johns Hopkins University School of Medicine, commented in a statement: "That we have the capacity and are biologically predisposed for these experiences with psychedelics suggests that this may be an evolutionarily conserved process in which we are wired to detect sentient others. Historically, such a predisposition would have a significant survival value in hostile environments."
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Griffiths, who is also director of the Center for Psychedelic and Consciousness Research at Johns Hopkins University, said: "Finding out why we have these experiences and how people interpret them may lead us to a better understanding of the human condition and how we perceive reality."
Alan Davis, adjunct assistant professor of psychiatry and behavioral sciences at Johns Hopkins University and lead author, said in a statement: "Although we need to do more research in order to understand how these entity encounters exert positive changes in people's lives, it's possible that the metaphysical shock from questioning one's worldview occasioned by these vivid, unusual experiences may play an important role in the enduring positive life changes in attitudes, moods and behavior they inspire."
But Griffiths cautioned: "We have to be cautious because we're delving into experiences that appear on the psychotic end of the spectrum and there may be an unknown set of harms in certain susceptible people."
Some of us are not crazy, we are just ahead of the curve (and poorly understood...)
Stay curious...
Posted on 5/19/20 at 1:20 pm to ThinePreparedAni
https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg24532770-400-we-may-have-spotted-a-parallel-universe-going-backwards-in-time/
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We may have spotted a parallel universe going backwards in time
Strange particles observed by an experiment in Antarctica could be evidence of an alternative reality where everything is upside down
SPACE 8 April 2020
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IN THE Antarctic, things happen at a glacial pace. Just ask Peter Gorham. For a month at a time, he and his colleagues would watch a giant balloon carrying a collection of antennas float high above the ice, scanning over a million square kilometres of the frozen landscape for evidence of high-energy particles arriving from space.
When the experiment returned to the ground after its first flight, it had nothing to show for itself, bar the odd flash of background noise. It was the same story after the second flight more than a year later.
While the balloon was in the sky for the third time, the researchers decided to go over the past data again, particularly those signals dismissed as noise. It was lucky they did. Examined more carefully, one signal seemed to be the signature of a high-energy particle. But it wasn’t what they were looking for. Moreover, it seemed impossible. Rather than bearing down from above, this particle was exploding out of the ground.
That strange finding was made in 2016. Since then, all sorts of suggestions rooted in known physics have been put forward to account for the perplexing signal, and all have been ruled out. What’s left is shocking in its implications. Explaining this signal requires the existence of a topsy-turvy universe created in the same big bang as our own and existing in parallel with it. In this mirror world, positive is negative, left is right and time runs backwards. It is perhaps the most mind-melting idea ever to have emerged from the Antarctic ice – but it might just be true. …
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https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/world/2020/05/upside-down-cosmic-ray-shower-detected-in-antarctica-may-be-proof-of-a-parallel-universe-researchers.html
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SCIENCE
'Upside-down cosmic ray shower' detected in Antarctica may be proof of a parallel universe - researchers
19/05/2020
Matt Burrows
Stanger things...
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While the discovery itself was made many years ago, it has risen to prominence more recently as other, more palatable explanations for such a phenomenon have been ruled out.
Now, researchers believe these particles may actually be travelling back through time, indicating there is a parallel universe close to ours in which the standard laws of physics operate in reverse.
"Not everyone was comfortable with the hypothesis," Prof Gorham admitted to New Scientist.
Speaking to the University of Hawai'i, he said the phenomenon "could be an indication of some new type of physics, what we call beyond the standard model of physics".
Reference other threads where we cite "the things that should not be"
Posted on 5/19/20 at 1:26 pm to HempHead
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he scariest idea is that somehow, among the universe, we are the most advanced species alive.
That is an idea that always creeps into my mind when I watch sci-fi movies etc. We have all the fantasies of advance aliens in outer space but what if we are the first--we are the one's that started it all.
From a religious perspective us being first would be the most obvious answer. the Bible brother holy books never mentions a Jesus on other planet. Probably save that part for the New testament part 2
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