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re: What's going through Officer Derek Chauvin's mind right now you think?
Posted on 5/29/20 at 1:13 pm to Street Hawk
Posted on 5/29/20 at 1:13 pm to Street Hawk
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there probably isn't a single jury in this country that would not convict him
I dunno. How many of these types of cases result in convictions? Seems like most of these guys skate.
And the "no single jury in this country" is really stretching it. There are probably some places in the country where there would be a majority of jurors voting for acquittal. Heck, I doubt you could get a conviction from a jury randomly selected from OT'ers, definitely not from PT'ers.
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Posted on 5/29/20 at 1:19 pm to MsGarrison
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Top or bottom?
His new cellmate: You want to be the husband or the wife?
Him: Ummm, the husband;
His new cellmate: Then come here and suck your wife's dick...
Posted on 5/29/20 at 1:20 pm to Street Hawk
He will either commit suicide or be suicided. It’s too perfectly convenient for it to not happen.
Posted on 5/29/20 at 1:20 pm to Street Hawk
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isn't a single jury in this country that would not convict him.
OJ Simpson, Casey Anthony and George Zimmerman will take that bet
Posted on 5/29/20 at 1:22 pm to Methuselah
If this guy gets less than 15 years you are gonna get the same kind of things you have seen in the last few days. And if he is some how found not guilty of anything......... holy shite.
Posted on 5/29/20 at 1:27 pm to Methuselah
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I dunno. How many of these types of cases result in convictions? Seems like most of these guys skate.
And the "no single jury in this country" is really stretching it. There are probably some places in the country where there would be a majority of jurors voting for acquittal. Heck, I doubt you could get a conviction from a jury randomly selected from OT'ers, definitely not from PT'ers.
Past cases were very flimsy at best, with lots of murky details and tons of speculation of what transpired, or the case was spun by the media into something it wasn't. This is a bit different. There's video of pretty much this entire incident.
Posted on 5/29/20 at 1:28 pm to Methuselah
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And the "no single jury in this country" is really stretching it. There are probably some places in the country where there would be a majority of jurors voting for acquittal. Heck, I doubt you could get a conviction from a jury randomly selected from OT'ers, definitely not from PT'ers
I This is going to be one of those high profile cases where it is going to be hard to field a jury with people who aren't already familiar with the case. Unless you've been living under a rock you have at least seen a clip of the video. My question is if you have seen the clip will that exclude you from serving on the jury? I'm assuming that the video will be in the trial as evidence, so should it matter if someone has already seen it? Lawyer baws, help out here.
Posted on 5/29/20 at 1:32 pm to tgrbaitn08
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He’ll be in protective custody
So was Jeffery Epstien
But I doubt Chauvin has dirt on the Clintons.
Posted on 5/29/20 at 1:33 pm to SouthEndzoneTiger
Wonder if they had surveillance on him since the incident? If I were him, I would have at least attempted a swift exit from the country as soon as this hits the news.
Posted on 5/29/20 at 1:34 pm to Street Hawk
Maybe something like.....
" I should probably start loosening & stretching my a-hole"
" I should probably start loosening & stretching my a-hole"
Posted on 5/29/20 at 1:35 pm to Tonio
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Police should have immunity in situations like this. This wasn’t “murder”.
Why oh why do we hold our police to such low standards.
Posted on 5/29/20 at 1:36 pm to Street Hawk
quote:butt stuff
Will he even survive prison?
Posted on 5/29/20 at 1:36 pm to jdd48
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Past cases were very flimsy at best, with lots of murky details and tons of speculation of what transpired, or the case was spun by the media into something it wasn't. This is a bit different. There's video of pretty much this entire incident.
Good lawyers can do a whole lot to create reasonable doubt with very little. Also, frankly there are people who would almost never find against a white police officer accused of doing something to a black suspect. (Conversely, there are some people who would almost never find for a white officer accused of doing something to a black suspect, but I'm pretty sure all the defense in this case needs is 1 not guilty).
Posted on 5/29/20 at 1:40 pm to dukke v
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No that’s second degree murder. He had the intent... why keep him pinned down for all that time???????
Intent is very difficult to prove beyond a reasonable doubt.
Intent means you set out to kill the person. As overzealous as Chauvin's actions were only he knows his intent.
My opinion, Chauvin didn't care what happened to Floyd, all he was concerned with at the time was asserting his authority.
As a matter of comparison these are the exact same charges brought against officer Noor who shot the lady a few years ago being referenced lately.
Posted on 5/29/20 at 1:44 pm to AndyCBR
I agree, I don’t think intent would have stuck. He would most likely make the argument that his position behind him was correct, even though kneeling on his neck wasn’t. But because he was behind him kneeling on him, he was not in a position to check vitals or asses the situation to see him stop breathing. And losing the battle on intent could have made him walk free.
Posted on 5/29/20 at 1:47 pm to AndyCBR
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Intent is very difficult to prove beyond a reasonable doubt.
Intent means you set out to kill the person. As overzealous as Chauvin's actions were only he knows his intent.
My opinion, Chauvin didn't care what happened to Floyd, all he was concerned with at the time was asserting his authority.
The MN statute for 3rd degree murder does not require intent, only depraved indifference.
Posted on 5/29/20 at 1:49 pm to Street Hawk
Probably watching Wes Watson and Big Hurc videos to stay alive
Posted on 5/29/20 at 1:53 pm to SouthEndzoneTiger
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The MN statute for 3rd degree murder does not require intent, only depraved indifference.
Agreed.
Poster I was responding to was referring to 2nd degree charges which require intent.
Chauvin was charged with 3rd and Manslaughter.
Posted on 5/29/20 at 1:54 pm to danilo
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Probably watching Wes Watson and Big Hurc videos to stay alive
I've watched both of their channels.
Posted on 5/29/20 at 2:02 pm to 805tiger
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I've watched both of their channels.
You better not show up with bad paper work. You’ll get booked real quick. GP for life!
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