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re: What's a good way to phrase people who can't accept good fortune of others?

Posted on 2/12/18 at 11:19 am to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 2/12/18 at 11:19 am to
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Peanut butter and jealous.

they certainly weren't when they were making the "fun" decision without thinking of the future

then they were bragging
Posted by brucevilanch
Fort Worth, Tejas
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Posted on 2/12/18 at 11:21 am to
Sounds like an interesting podcast topic. Maybe you should wrangle up some posters and have an open debate about it.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 2/12/18 at 11:21 am to
i don't really have a problem with people who talk about their investments and their house and stuff like that, i just don't know why they think i care. It's like talking about your fantasy team.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 2/12/18 at 11:21 am to
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side 1: when GDM talks about their new investment plans, they aren't bragging, but BDM takes it that way and either responds with sarcasm of accuses GDM of being a braggart: what is a good way to describe this behavior by BDM?


Why does GDM need to talk about "their new investment plans" to BDM?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
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Posted on 2/12/18 at 11:21 am to
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Sounds like an interesting podcast topic.

don't get me banned
Posted by Lsupimp
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Posted on 2/12/18 at 11:22 am to
Its common in your 20s/30s to draw reproach from unsuccessful friends and family if you are successful. I think it happens to everybody to some extent . People hate feeling they are being left behind.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
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Posted on 2/12/18 at 11:22 am to
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Why does GDM need to talk about "their new investment plans" to BDM?

my friends and i talk about our side projects and stuff

but also, later on i say a lot of this is seen through my practice handling divorces. you kind of have to tell your spouse your plans
Posted by MardiGrasCajun
Dirty Coast, MS
Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 2/12/18 at 11:22 am to
Side 1: BDM is jealous of said GDM. Those less fortunate have a bad tendency to "knock" those more fortunate. It's their way of attempting to bring them down to their level. It's the "king-servant" relationship. Same reason LSU fans are jealous of Bama. It's good to be the king.

Side 2: The conversation is usually above the intellect of the said BDM. The BDM feels inferior thus feels the need to degrade the GDM when they should be learning from the GDM.
Posted by brucevilanch
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Posted on 2/12/18 at 11:22 am to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
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Posted on 2/12/18 at 11:23 am to
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i don't really have a problem with people who talk about their investments and their house and stuff like that, i just don't know why they think i care. It's like talking about your fantasy team.

it's not the material things. it's the mindset
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 2/12/18 at 11:24 am to
people aren't allowed to talk about the p-word or else i get in troubld
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 2/12/18 at 11:25 am to
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people aren't allowed to talk about the p-word or else i get in troubld


Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 2/12/18 at 11:26 am to
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just don't know why they think i care.


I agree. I know a few people like this and they're fairly miserable to be around. I like to see people have success, I'm kind of a cheerleader for humanity but I take zero interest in their personal business. I don't know why they think anyone would.
Posted by brucevilanch
Fort Worth, Tejas
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 2/12/18 at 11:27 am to
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people aren't allowed to talk about the p-word or else i get in troubld


For real? Geez.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
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Posted on 2/12/18 at 11:27 am to
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People hate feeling they are being left behind.

yeah but there is a difference in being happy, down the road, that you made the right decision, and bragging

my best personal example is the group of people who did study abroad in law school and took out student loans to pay for it. at the time they said i was crazy for not going, and i had crunched the numbers and they did the "life is more than just numbers..you'll never get to go to europe again. blah blah blah" routine

10 years later i'm about to pay off my student loans and happy i'm not burdened with an extra 15k+ while the same friends who made fun of me for not being fun are drowning in student loan debt (some aren't even paying it). if i say "man i made the right decision. now i can afford to ball out in Europe" they'd lose their fricking minds at me
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 2/12/18 at 11:27 am to
Sound like the people that insist on "keeping up with the Jones'" even though they can't afford to... then they wonder why they can't get out of debt.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 2/12/18 at 11:28 am to
yeah i wasn't even talking about it much (especially not initiating talking about it) and i got a really harsh PM telling me to stop promoting it...when i wasn't and was, at the most, participating in other's conversations about it

that's why it died after 2 episodes
Posted by Pilot Tiger
North Carolina
Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 2/12/18 at 11:29 am to
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the other side is, why do we have such a problem with the GDMs talking about the good decisions they've made to get to a high point?
We're obsessed with this as a country though. Tedx, all the facebook posts of various "sales gurus" etc. Americans buy/read more self help than every other country.

Or are you specifically talking about interactions face to face?

I do know there is a huge difference between talking about specific mindsets/strategies as it pertains to business and offering empty platitudes like, "you just have to go out and never give up!" Often many people who have "made it" forget the enormous amounts of luck it also takes but almost universally ignore it as they feel it takes away from their success
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
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Posted on 2/12/18 at 11:29 am to
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Sound like the people that insist on "keeping up with the Jones'" even though they can't afford to... then they wonder why they can't get out of debt.

that's one very common version of the BDM'ing. probably the most
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
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Posted on 2/12/18 at 11:32 am to
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Often many people who have "made it" forget the enormous amounts of luck it also takes but almost universally ignore it as they feel it takes away from their success

sometimes you rum +EV and sometimes you run -EV

if you have the correct strategy, work to improve your skillset for the strategy, and make the correct decisions with that strategy, you will eventually succeed almost every time (sometimes you'll run -EV early and it will just take time)

this assumes you have the correct strategy. lots of times people are too egotistical and can't analyze situations properly and convince themselves they're just running -EV instead of having a terrible strategy
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