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re: What would have happened if they had let the banks fail in 2008?
Posted on 6/2/22 at 4:23 pm to Stealth Matrix
Posted on 6/2/22 at 4:23 pm to Stealth Matrix
We might find out in a year or so.
Posted on 6/2/22 at 4:26 pm to thadcastle
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Would we be better off or worse than we are today?
I would venture a guess better. Likely a lower population, but better. Instead, we learned nothing as a society and have actually in some ways doubled down.
Posted on 6/2/22 at 4:30 pm to VADawg
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Bush is the definition of a RINO.
Posted on 6/2/22 at 4:32 pm to VADawg
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Bush is the definition of a RINO.
Bush famously said he had to abandon free market principles to save the free market.
Bush abandoned us. thats what gave rise to a person like Trump to take over the Republican party. We couldnt trust those fricks any more, they are all the same. And Trump isnt even conservative but better than the establishment.
But it was absolutely a liberal idea to give loans to people who could never pay them back. the subprime failure was a failure of our government. Fannie and Freddie were the biggest losers to the american taxpayer, not the TARP loans.
Posted on 6/2/22 at 4:33 pm to thadcastle
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What would have happened if they had let the banks fail in 2008?
This post was edited on 6/2/22 at 4:35 pm
Posted on 6/2/22 at 4:34 pm to OweO
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Explain this?
You serious?
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I was under the assumption they all fricked it up.
No, Republicans and responsible adults everywhere were calling attention to what was going on in the banking sector regarding mortgages etc. for years prior to the collapse.
Democrats used their oldest trick in their playbooks: cried racism.
Posted on 6/2/22 at 4:36 pm to Green Chili Tiger
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Hank Paulson and George W. were democrats?
I'm no fan of either of those people. But the subprime crisis wasn't on them. It definitely wasn't on Bush.
Posted on 6/2/22 at 4:37 pm to thadcastle
What gets me is that they all got bail outs and zero effort was made to investigate criminal activity on Wall Street.
Honestly we should let them fail next time. And there will be a next time.
Honestly we should let them fail next time. And there will be a next time.
This post was edited on 6/2/22 at 4:38 pm
Posted on 6/2/22 at 4:37 pm to GetmorewithLes
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Most of the people on here including me would not have a job
I highly doubt that.
Posted on 6/2/22 at 4:44 pm to RTRinTampa
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Too Big To Fail is too big to exist. Bust them up. Loadning money to professional gambling addicts is a bad plan.
I am assuming you do not know the root cause of this failure.
For many years the major financial institutions held rules for borrowing money too strict for those at the lower end of the economy. So along come the Clintons who made rules to force the banks to relax and damn near eliminate their loan qualification rules so the disadvantaged could share the American dream.
As a result we got the new homeowners buying homes they could not afford for little or nothing down.
Next came the FANNIE MAE and SALLIE MAE mortgage backed securities that blended these trash loans in with the good ones. This created a boom in the housing market and there were so many new loan processers out there generating this bad paper that older established firms were put in a situation where they had to participate or perish.
The banks in the meantime needed loan dollars to float their business and bought massive amounts of these mortgage backed securities. Eventually the bad non performing loans within the mortgage backed securities took their toll on some institutions and some started to fail. This created an international panic started a run on the banks by the institutional investors.
So my point here is that the villans in all of this were pandering politicians. The financial execs were the stooges.
Posted on 6/2/22 at 4:55 pm to GetmorewithLes
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So my point here is that the villans in all of this were pandering progressives.
FIFY
Posted on 6/2/22 at 5:45 pm to chryso
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People would have learned that in a free market economy you can make or lose money.
And those Wall Street shite birds would’ve learned that being politically connected doesn’t get you a free pass to get bailed out when you frick up. The moral hazard that the bailouts created can not be overstated enough.
Posted on 6/2/22 at 6:05 pm to Green Chili Tiger
Bush can call himself a Republican if he wants to, but he definitely isn't conservative.
Posted on 6/2/22 at 6:18 pm to thadcastle
JPM Chase would be even bigger. They were forced to take the money and didn't use any and immediately repaid once allowed
Posted on 6/2/22 at 6:28 pm to goofball
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What gets me is that they all got bail outs and zero effort was made to investigate criminal activity on Wall Street.
Occupy Wall St. is seen in a bad light but they were right all along. Antifa and hippy throngs aren't taken seriously.
Posted on 6/2/22 at 6:31 pm to dandyjohn
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The right move was not to bail out the banks, but to bail out the people the banks preyed upon.
That would have taken too long in practice. They couldn’t have distributed liquidity quickly enough
Posted on 6/2/22 at 6:34 pm to goofball
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What gets me is that they all got bail outs and zero effort was made to investigate criminal activity on Wall Street.
If an investigation was done to find criminal activity on wall street, that might actually collapse the economy because everyone with money would be in jail.
Posted on 6/2/22 at 6:45 pm to thadcastle
There would be no banking systime and way worse off. They say that had money been injected into housing market/mortgage market for homeowners (primary residence) we would have been better off.
Posted on 6/2/22 at 7:00 pm to thadcastle
The FDIC and SIPC would have gone bankrupt and only pay out a portion of your investments and savings accounts. Millions would have seen their assets disappear, possibly leading to even worse international financial impacts with limited ability to move goods across borders.
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