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re: What was your moment where you were convinced there isn't a god?
Posted on 11/29/18 at 12:55 am to mmmmmbeeer
Posted on 11/29/18 at 12:55 am to mmmmmbeeer
I’m not atheist, but I think that our understanding of God and how it all works is lacking. I was born and raised a Catholic. If you ask me in person, I will tell you that I am Catholic. I’ve just come to think that all these rules we set for ourselves don’t allow us to act in the way we are naturally meant to act. I just think that we know whole lot less about God than we think we do. I started thinking this way during college. I don’t think I’ll ever be atheist, but I’ve changed a lot over the past few years.
Posted on 11/29/18 at 1:05 am to mmmmmbeeer
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I'm more likely to believe we live in a simulation than I am to believe in any sort of deity.
I tend to think of these concepts as one and the same. The closest thing humans have to compare the fabric of our reality to is a computer simulation. What is a computer but an artificial “mind,” and what happens within “thoughts”?
Personally I think thought is the basic unit of reality, and the closest thing we have to compare the mind of God to is a computer.
Posted on 11/29/18 at 1:35 am to OleWarSkuleAlum
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Transubstantiation
Bingo. What a joke. Grew up in catholic schools and these teachers are trying to tell me I'm drinking blood and eating flesh. GTFO. Anybody in need of a blood transfusion should head to the nearest vineyard. Simple as that
Posted on 11/29/18 at 1:56 am to DeafJam73
Same, my wife and I grew up Catholic. Our kids are both baptized in the Catholic church. We go to as many Sunday masses as we can, yet I sit there wondering the entire time if I'm really doing right by my kids and my wife by being there. Half the time I feel like I'm at a cult rally. The other half I feel bad for not participating to the fullest. I fall somewhere in the middle and find myself going out of habit/expectation more than anything.
I do believe in some higher power. Maybe it's God. Maybe it's a muse. Maybe it's the quantum physics of the universe. Regardless, I believe heavily in every action has an equal and opposite reaction. Do good, good will find you. Be positive, positive things will find you. Blah..blah..blah. I don't know if it's right or wrong or if what I'm associating it all with is appropriate, but I don't think you need a God to follow that thought process. I also don't think I have a pedestal to demean others one way or the other. The people who act like they do are the worst.
I do believe in some higher power. Maybe it's God. Maybe it's a muse. Maybe it's the quantum physics of the universe. Regardless, I believe heavily in every action has an equal and opposite reaction. Do good, good will find you. Be positive, positive things will find you. Blah..blah..blah. I don't know if it's right or wrong or if what I'm associating it all with is appropriate, but I don't think you need a God to follow that thought process. I also don't think I have a pedestal to demean others one way or the other. The people who act like they do are the worst.
This post was edited on 11/29/18 at 2:03 am
Posted on 11/29/18 at 2:41 am to mmmmmbeeer
Realized an un-god-like life was super fun
Posted on 11/29/18 at 4:29 am to ourkansastigah
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What's always puzzled me is, of all the great miracles that jesus did, where is the monuments or the statues or the anything for that matter
In every Catholic church in the world. Have you never seen a picture of the Christ the Redeemer statue of Jesus Christ in Rio? This has to be sarcasm right?
This post was edited on 11/29/18 at 4:32 am
Posted on 11/29/18 at 5:35 am to mmmmmbeeer
When I had the ability to think for myself
Posted on 11/29/18 at 5:48 am to Pastalaya
I have troubled myself over this for many years. I would listen to Christian, Buddhist and then atheist content.
At one point after listening to Sam Harris for a while I was convinced that there was no God. Then I thought about the 35 billion galaxies with 35 billion stars each. I understood how absurd it was to be Atheist.....Just as absurd as being a believer.
Agnosticism is the only reasonable position. But believing in God or believing in the religion of Atheism is a choice. This is based on the content you choose to consume.
I choose to believe in God today because the message makes me a better person and my thought life is healthier. I was borderline suicidal during my atheist phase. Humanism is an empty substitute. I'm sorry.
At one point after listening to Sam Harris for a while I was convinced that there was no God. Then I thought about the 35 billion galaxies with 35 billion stars each. I understood how absurd it was to be Atheist.....Just as absurd as being a believer.
Agnosticism is the only reasonable position. But believing in God or believing in the religion of Atheism is a choice. This is based on the content you choose to consume.
I choose to believe in God today because the message makes me a better person and my thought life is healthier. I was borderline suicidal during my atheist phase. Humanism is an empty substitute. I'm sorry.
Posted on 11/29/18 at 6:27 am to mmmmmbeeer
I dont know that there isnt a god but I believe that all religions are bull shite and the odds of them getting it right are slim to none.
I definitely dont believe god, whatever it is, is what Christians, muslims, etc believe him to be.
I dont remember the exact moment that I quite being religious but I was really committed to the catholic faith up until about age 19 or so. I think a contradiction in the bible (I dont remember which one exactly, there are many) got me thinking about it. It was kind of a tough time, I was realizing that everything I'd lived my life for up to that point was a crock of shite.
Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?
I definitely dont believe god, whatever it is, is what Christians, muslims, etc believe him to be.
I dont remember the exact moment that I quite being religious but I was really committed to the catholic faith up until about age 19 or so. I think a contradiction in the bible (I dont remember which one exactly, there are many) got me thinking about it. It was kind of a tough time, I was realizing that everything I'd lived my life for up to that point was a crock of shite.
Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?
This post was edited on 11/29/18 at 6:32 am
Posted on 11/29/18 at 6:35 am to dnm3305
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When I learned about the Holocaust as a kid as well as not believing in any of the tall tales like Jonah and the whale and Noah's Ark, Jesus walking on water, turning water into wine, etc. All of that struck me as illogical as a child but didnt really manifest into me flat out challenging it and not believing it until around late middle school. Then learning about how corrupt the church of any kind is (anything with power really) which is compounded by all the rape that goes and is constantly covered up, around high school I became very rebellious about it. I'd say Im probabaly agnostic now because I really just don't give a frick about any of it.
This answer is spot on. I shall claim it as my own.
Posted on 11/29/18 at 6:35 am to mmmmmbeeer
I believe in a higher power and believe that there is clearly things that are beyond our human comprehension.
Posted on 11/29/18 at 7:14 am to mmmmmbeeer
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What was your moment where you were convinced there isn't a god?
When I learned what pediatric cancer was.
This post was edited on 11/29/18 at 7:15 am
Posted on 11/29/18 at 7:33 am to mmmmmbeeer
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Just not a topic which is talked about much in public
Or on this board, because it isn't allowed.
Posted on 11/29/18 at 7:35 am to LouisianaLady
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Realized an un-god-like life was super fun
Hey you stole that from Huxley.
Posted on 11/29/18 at 7:50 am to mmmmmbeeer
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What was your moment where you were convinced there isn't a god?
Your question is flawed, terribly. There is a God.
My belief is is with our Creator, God. You know, the dude who makes trees over the weekend.
All I've got to say is, the non-believers better hope they're right.
Posted on 11/29/18 at 7:54 am to mmmmmbeeer
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I'm more likely to believe we live in a simulation than I am to believe in any sort of deity.
Who wrote the sim? Or did the sim just magically appear?
Posted on 11/29/18 at 7:56 am to mmmmmbeeer
When I realized the true value of money and realized how much every religion puts it right up there with their deity in importance. And I saw just how much money some of these churches pull in and what the pastors are paid and stand up there and teach humility and being a good steward yadda yadda. GTFO with that as you drove here in your Benz.
Posted on 11/29/18 at 7:58 am to mmmmmbeeer
I haven't reached that point yet
Posted on 11/29/18 at 8:00 am to IAmNERD
Religion =/= spirituality
Religion sucks, but I haven't given up on the concept of God. In fact its getting much stronger. I was agnostic not long ago
Don't believe in heaven or hell.
Religion sucks, but I haven't given up on the concept of God. In fact its getting much stronger. I was agnostic not long ago
Don't believe in heaven or hell.
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