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re: What the anti-gambling N LA politicians are costing the state.

Posted on 8/1/18 at 12:10 pm to
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
171036 posts
Posted on 8/1/18 at 12:10 pm to
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Every dollar gambled by a Louisiana resident is a dollar not spent on something more productive.




Casinos weren’t placed in Shreveport and Lake Charles for Louisiana residents. It was for Dallas and Houston visitors.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37047 posts
Posted on 8/1/18 at 12:11 pm to
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State Sen. Jack Donahue, R-Mandeville, made the motion to kill the bill, saying his constituents do not want more gambling.


How many casinos are there in St Tammany?

That's the cool thing, Senator... your constituents aren't going to have any more gambling in their backyards.

It's not hard. Do the same thing we did with the casinos, video poker, etc. Let each parish decide.
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
98164 posts
Posted on 8/1/18 at 12:12 pm to
A lot of Louisiana residents go there, though. If you're doing an analysis of economic benefit to the state, that should be factored out.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37047 posts
Posted on 8/1/18 at 12:14 pm to
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Unless you're taking out of state money, gambling revenue just cannibilizes other discretionary spending. Every dollar gambled by a Louisiana resident is a dollar not spent on something more productive.

I'm not anti gambling. People should be free to do what they wish with their money. I like to play the ponies myself. But we should be realistic about it. It works for Vegas because it's almost entirely out of state money, and a worldwide destination resort. Legalized sports betting won't do much to fix Louisiana's fiscal problem, any more than casinos have. At least horse tracks support an agriculture industry that employ a few thousand people.


Most of the casinos in Shreveport/Bossier and in Lake Charles pull money from Texas residents. In NOLA< I think the only one where it would make sense to have a book is at Harrah's, which does get a lot of out of state money.

Maybe one book in Baton Rouge makes sense.

Also, there is a lot of online betting, and underground sports betting being done by LA residents. I wonder if some of that would come into the local casinos.
Posted by JOJO Hammer
Member since Nov 2010
11910 posts
Posted on 8/1/18 at 12:16 pm to
They have to make sure the right pockets are filled before they approve sports betting.
Posted by TigerstuckinMS
Member since Nov 2005
33687 posts
Posted on 8/1/18 at 12:50 pm to
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It’s not just the sports book money lost, it will be so many people that normally might stay in La to gamble who will now drive to Ms. add in hotel rooms, meals, etc and the taxes that go along.


Bingo. I've said this many times, but for 10 years now, my friends and I have a guy's trip over Labor Day weekend. We'd all roll into NOLA Thursday night (some of us would fly in) and for the next three days we'd gamble, drink, and eat. The weekend would cap off on Sunday night with a blowout meal then our fantasy football draft. On Monday, we'd blearily make our ways home.

Between all the debauchery, food, gambling, and hotel rooms, we'd easily average a couple thousand dollars each dropped in the City of New Orleans. The league was full, so that's fourteen of us.

When we booked for this year's trip, we knew the SCOTUS was looking at the sports betting issue and Mississippi already said they were getting ready if the federal prohibition outside of Nevada were struck down, so we booked rooms for NOLA and Biloxi.

The NOLA rooms were canceled about a half hour after the court released its decision.

Good fricking riddance. We'll happily give Biloxi our money because they're willing to do the unimaginable: Let us sit in a room and drink while we watch college football and make wagers.
This post was edited on 8/1/18 at 12:52 pm
Posted by MLCLyons
Member since Nov 2012
4708 posts
Posted on 8/1/18 at 12:58 pm to
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In 20 days, Delaware, tiny Delaware, made $437,609 in state revenue. This is in June. I am sure there was world cup action on this, and maybe NBA finals, but this is before football season.

LA is going to lose millions to Mississippi.



Personally I'm shocked that Louisiana is lagging behind.

I'm sure we'll be the 50th state to legalize recreational marijuana long after the growth is over and we won't get shite from it.
Posted by Horsemeat
Truckin' somewhere in the US
Member since Dec 2014
13525 posts
Posted on 8/1/18 at 2:27 pm to
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Casinos weren’t placed in Shreveport and Lake Charles for Louisiana residents. It was for Dallas and Houston visitors.


Just like how Oklahoma has them all over their side of the Red River, and Colorado with the pot shops all over their borders.
This post was edited on 8/1/18 at 2:28 pm
Posted by Kafka
I am the moral conscience of TD
Member since Jul 2007
141793 posts
Posted on 8/1/18 at 2:31 pm to
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N LA politicians are costing the state
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Against (6): Sen. Jack Donahue, R-Mandeville; Sen. Bret Allain, R-Franklin; Sen. Regina Barrow, D-Baton Rouge; Sen. Wesley Bishop, D-New Orleans; Sen. Jim Fannin, R-Jonesboro; Sen. Sharon Hewitt, R-Slidell
I wish all those Slidell, Mandeville and BR assholes would stay in North LA where they belong
Posted by Double Oh
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2008
17783 posts
Posted on 8/1/18 at 2:31 pm to
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I would be interested to see what would happen if Texas ushered in casinos. We see a lot of money funnel to LA and OK




Some casinos in Louisiana would probably shut down
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
98164 posts
Posted on 8/1/18 at 2:32 pm to
That sounds like a weekend from hell to me. Gambling is way too stressful to be entertaining. I only bet horses because I've gotten good enough at it to make a little money. If not for that I wouldn't be doing it at all.
Posted by AA77
Member since Jan 2016
3796 posts
Posted on 8/1/18 at 3:18 pm to
Nothing surprising, Louisiana and OK would lose a lot of revenue.
Posted by TigerstuckinMS
Member since Nov 2005
33687 posts
Posted on 8/1/18 at 3:26 pm to
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That sounds like a weekend from hell to me. Gambling is way too stressful to be entertaining.

It's not as if we spend every waking moment doubling down on 18 and splitting tens (Never do this). Some moments are spent at shows. Others are spent shoveling whiskey into our faces. For parts of the weekend, we support the medical community by shoving dollar bills into Kandi's g-string so she can continue pursuing her dream of being a nurse.

Gambling's just part of it. Of course, instead of playing the Pass Line, we'll shift 12 hours of our focus to doing things like making halftime spread bets on the Umass at B.C. game while watching every game simultaneously with the other degenerates because we CAN.
This post was edited on 8/1/18 at 3:28 pm
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
113938 posts
Posted on 8/1/18 at 3:27 pm to
It's the Baptist.

I know Baptist are against gambling, yet there are already different forms of gambling in the state so I don't understand why the NLA politicians are against this.

Now that it is legal in Mississippi, Mississippi will be gaining on tax money Louisiana could be taking in. It's stupid.
Posted by tommy2tone1999
St. George, LA
Member since Sep 2008
6759 posts
Posted on 8/1/18 at 4:34 pm to
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Louisiana would still be poor. The politicians would waste the money.

So really you’re not losing anything.


My EXACT argument against legalizing weed in Louisiana. We don't have a revenue stream problem, we have a SPENDING problem.
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
113938 posts
Posted on 8/1/18 at 4:36 pm to
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My EXACT argument against legalizing weed in Louisiana. We don't have a revenue stream problem, we have a SPENDING problem.



Yeah, but that's no reason to not making it available for those who would like to consume it.
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
56238 posts
Posted on 8/1/18 at 4:37 pm to
Hell yeah.

Gambling will fix this shite.

We got boats, casinos, lottery, video poker and still cant drive down most roads without tearing up your car, terrible healthcare, and shite schools, boil advisories all over the state, crime out of control.....maybe we need no gambling.
Posted by DeafJam73
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
18422 posts
Posted on 8/1/18 at 4:40 pm to
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Louisiana would still be poor. The politicians would waste the money. So really you’re not losing anything.


Here lies the root of our problems.
Posted by BiggerBear
Redbone Country
Member since Sep 2011
2923 posts
Posted on 8/1/18 at 4:41 pm to
Those people are too busy transporting drugs to Florida to stop in MS to bet on sports.
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
113938 posts
Posted on 8/1/18 at 4:51 pm to
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We got boats, casinos, lottery, video poker and still cant drive down most roads without tearing up your car, terrible healthcare, and shite schools, boil advisories all over the state, crime out of control.....maybe we need no gambling.




I remember when gambling was first put up to vote.. Under Edwin Edwards.. I think during his last term.. All the money generated from gambling was suppose to go towards education..
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