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Posted on 4/29/20 at 5:15 pm to TJG210
An ignominious legacy of greed
Posted on 4/29/20 at 5:41 pm to Lock,Stock
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Also when was the Mob run out of town
Started with JFK but they finally lost power in the 80’s.
Posted on 4/29/20 at 5:58 pm to TJG210
I beluu I eve the real change took place in the late 70s on as the major oil companies started moving out, most to Houston. That began a huge out migration of the NOLA middle class.
Posted on 4/29/20 at 6:08 pm to Celery
Too blame it on corrupt politics is simplistic. Guys like Edwards in the 1970s were the best friends the oil companies had. NOLA's decline had many factors . In the late 1970's and early 1980's New Orleans did quite well. Places like Poydras Street were built which prior to the building of the Dome were run down old buildings. All the oil companies built offices by the dome. There were about 4 office buildings planned that never got built because of the oil crash including one that would have been about 60 stories.
The oil crash coupled with Martin Marrietta essentially shuttering in NO East in 1983 was a psychic blow that still to this day kicks the city in the nuts. Couple that with redrawing of council districts to favor African Americans and white flight started in earnest. First to Metairie and River Ridge Harahan and then 10 years later to the Northshore. The city did not k
now what to do.
The only thing that kept the city somewhat afloa t was the French Quarter and the visitors . NOLA along with the syate of Louisiana had not invested ANY real money into education until Katrina and its aftermath. The old money already insular limited outsider access banking wise.....Whitney and Hibernia were very conservative. The middle class of the area was struggling to keep its position as it got squeezed.
I could go on, but it was the oil bust of the early 80's that started the ball rolling big time along with loss of contracts for Martin Marrieta out at Michoud and it all happened around the time that African American political power was starting to consolidate and there was a a lot of score settling that was the result. Also the election of Sidney Barthelemy was a disaster that amplified problems. Because of him NOLA was dysfunctional for most of the 1990's and he left office after 2 terms in 1994.
The oil crash coupled with Martin Marrietta essentially shuttering in NO East in 1983 was a psychic blow that still to this day kicks the city in the nuts. Couple that with redrawing of council districts to favor African Americans and white flight started in earnest. First to Metairie and River Ridge Harahan and then 10 years later to the Northshore. The city did not k
now what to do.
The only thing that kept the city somewhat afloa t was the French Quarter and the visitors . NOLA along with the syate of Louisiana had not invested ANY real money into education until Katrina and its aftermath. The old money already insular limited outsider access banking wise.....Whitney and Hibernia were very conservative. The middle class of the area was struggling to keep its position as it got squeezed.
I could go on, but it was the oil bust of the early 80's that started the ball rolling big time along with loss of contracts for Martin Marrieta out at Michoud and it all happened around the time that African American political power was starting to consolidate and there was a a lot of score settling that was the result. Also the election of Sidney Barthelemy was a disaster that amplified problems. Because of him NOLA was dysfunctional for most of the 1990's and he left office after 2 terms in 1994.
Posted on 4/29/20 at 6:08 pm to USMEagles
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Why would I want to live in the 12th or 15th largest metropolitan area in the country when I could live in Atlanta?
To even mention Atlanta in the same sentence as SF and Seattle is some sick arse twisted blasphemy.
I know that it isn't a Chamber of Commerce piece, but good lord, Atlanta looks like absolute dog shite in that Atlanta Child Murders documentary that's running now on HBO.
It comes off as a backwards city that had the stupid good fortune of Delta Airlines HQ relocating from Monroe LA.
This post was edited on 4/29/20 at 6:18 pm
Posted on 4/29/20 at 6:16 pm to TJG210
Because you idiots don’t read the political winds back in the 1960’s and then never came up with a plan to correct things. Plus you have corruption in your genes. Reap what you sow!
This post was edited on 4/29/20 at 6:17 pm
Posted on 4/29/20 at 6:19 pm to KiwiHead
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All the oil companies built offices by the dome. There were about 4 office buildings planned that never got built because of the oil crash including one that would have been about 60 stories.
This kind of stuff fascinates me. Can you link any articles on this topic?
Posted on 4/29/20 at 6:37 pm to Picayuner
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The truth is, New Orleans was better than ever up until this corona thing. If you enjoy life and restaurants and bars, New Orleans is 10x better than Houston and Atlanta.
This mentality right here is why New Orleans is a has been of a town. Absolutely no desire to be any better and I wouldn’t care so much if it didn’t hold the state as a whole back
Posted on 4/29/20 at 6:41 pm to KiwiHead
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In the late 1970's and early 1980's New Orleans did quite well. Places like Poydras Street were built which prior to the building of the Dome were run down old buildings. All the oil companies built offices by the dome. There were about 4 office buildings planned that never got built because of the oil crash including one that would have been about 60 stories.
Shell, Texaco, Chevron and Freeport McMoran already had their own buildings. There were others but can’t remember of the top of my head.
I remember my dads office was in the red building across Poydras St from the Texaco building. He lived at the Royal Sonesta during the week and we would come in on weekends to visit him until we just moved here. That was back in the early 80’s. Then come 1985 and he gets laid off and then we move again.
Posted on 4/29/20 at 6:44 pm to TJG210
White flight combined with corrupt State officials
Posted on 4/29/20 at 6:57 pm to TJG210
Cultcha
Democrats
Hobos
Democrats
Hobos
Posted on 4/29/20 at 7:07 pm to tgrbaitn08
You had amoco right by the Hyatt...some offices Looked down or at the pool... was great during lsu frat formal time and full of scenery... ( if you got got with binoculars if your office you got in trouble ) across from the dome was Exxon..
She’ll was down the street in their big building...LLE ( Louisiana land and exploration ...the trapping company that became oil company cause they owned some much swap land) down Poydras sorta close the mother’s
I want to say mobile back up the street by Exxon and chevron down poydras by shell on opposite side of mothers....Freeport mc came because the state/city bribed Jim bob with tax relief to relocate from New York City to Nola..
Jimbob bought a house on st Charles and immediately became Nola royalty....the building between the dome and Hyatt was built in 86ish and called the energy center. Had a smallish major like noble or somebody , lawyers, and mall on the bottom....my office at amoco looked out on it and my office shook for a year as they beat those piling down:(
Poydras was the big oil and small independents had small buildings in the quarter...the warehouse district hard warehouses on the bottom and hippies living above them where the balconies are
The warehouse district by the convention was hotels built for the worlds fair...and designed to be condos afterward....(some others later redone warehouses also)
She’ll was down the street in their big building...LLE ( Louisiana land and exploration ...the trapping company that became oil company cause they owned some much swap land) down Poydras sorta close the mother’s
I want to say mobile back up the street by Exxon and chevron down poydras by shell on opposite side of mothers....Freeport mc came because the state/city bribed Jim bob with tax relief to relocate from New York City to Nola..
Jimbob bought a house on st Charles and immediately became Nola royalty....the building between the dome and Hyatt was built in 86ish and called the energy center. Had a smallish major like noble or somebody , lawyers, and mall on the bottom....my office at amoco looked out on it and my office shook for a year as they beat those piling down:(
Poydras was the big oil and small independents had small buildings in the quarter...the warehouse district hard warehouses on the bottom and hippies living above them where the balconies are
The warehouse district by the convention was hotels built for the worlds fair...and designed to be condos afterward....(some others later redone warehouses also)
Posted on 4/29/20 at 7:17 pm to TJG210
It was during the 80’s when the whore houses were losing business
Posted on 4/29/20 at 7:17 pm to Thecoz
Yeah I forgot about the Amaco building
Energy Building is still the Energy Building not be be confused with the ENTERGY building.
Energy Building is still the Energy Building not be be confused with the ENTERGY building.
Posted on 4/29/20 at 7:33 pm to TJG210
Gravity.
Posted on 4/29/20 at 7:36 pm to Amadeo
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To even mention Atlanta in the same sentence as SF and Seattle is some sick arse twisted blasphemy.
I've spent a lot of time in both cities and I just don't get the appeal of Seattle.
What does the pro-Seattle argument rest on? A pretty mountain? You can't really point to their choices at the ballot box, considering that they elected a literal child molester as Mayor (Ed Murray). They've also elected self-proclaimed socialists.
You posted something about a documentary about a serial killer on HBO, but 1) big cities have crimes and 2) municipal / state government is generally the province of idiots and deviants. Again, look to Ed Murray.
And there's no question which city is more fun for a single man. Seattle is a shite town for meeting attractive women.
This post was edited on 4/29/20 at 7:38 pm
Posted on 4/29/20 at 7:37 pm to USMEagles
Schwarze Apocolypse
Posted on 4/29/20 at 7:51 pm to USMEagles
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And there's no question which city is more fun for a single man. Seattle is a shite town for meeting attractive women.
Hell Tom Hanks had to get his four-year-old son to score him a cute girl, and she was from Baltimore.
Posted on 4/29/20 at 8:16 pm to TJG210
the closing of ponchatrain and Lincoln beaches pretty much sealed the deal that New Orleans would not be an integrated city
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