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re: What started New Orleans on its downward trajectory?
Posted on 4/29/20 at 2:32 pm to SuperSaint
Posted on 4/29/20 at 2:32 pm to SuperSaint
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60 years ago NO was twice the city ATL and HOU dreamed of being.
Fact. Those of us who were here in the 60's and early 70's saw a vastly different New Orleans. But corrupt politicians, changes to society, and a general laid back approach set the crash in motion. Failure to adapt to change and having a good vision led to business looking elsewhere. The port could have been so much bigger and better but every politician wanted their piece of the pie.
Posted on 4/29/20 at 2:34 pm to whoa
Haven't really read but a few early responses here. They chased big business away by raising taxes on one side, and corrupt local politicians asking for handouts on the other. After they chased big business away, the corrupt politicians went after the tourism destination thing. Guess what NOLA and Las Vegas, those are temporary dollars driving your economies. I left NOLA in '94. Would never go back for any amount of compensation.
This post was edited on 4/29/20 at 2:36 pm
Posted on 4/29/20 at 2:35 pm to TJG210
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By what metric was it better than ever?
You swerved right into it.
We all know it’s a great party town, great big game city, great food, good cold beer, great drinks, the Saints, Jazz Fest and time top it all off Mardis Gras. And if you had a good job you could really have fun.
Posted on 4/29/20 at 2:38 pm to whoa
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only people that are from Louisiana think New Orleans is a shithole
Whenever i tell people not from Louisiana I was born in new Orleans, they always say, nice place to visit for a couple of days, don't want to live there, and they are right, you can pick any city or small town in Texas and the quality of life is just better, with lower taxes
Posted on 4/29/20 at 2:41 pm to TJG210
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Posted on 4/29/20 at 2:43 pm to tgrbaitn08
quote:lol, not even close
Jefferson Parish continues to distinguish itself as one of the most poorly run rich counties in the United States. Its schools and roads are as bad as those of Orleans Parish
Posted on 4/29/20 at 2:44 pm to doubleb
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We all know it’s a great party town, great big game city, great food, good cold beer, great drinks, the Saints, Jazz Fest and time top it all off Mardis Gras. And if you had a good job you could really have fun.
Work a lowpay service sector job, and watch people come from out of state to have fun, that sounds really great
This post was edited on 4/29/20 at 2:45 pm
Posted on 4/29/20 at 2:45 pm to doubleb
You hit the nail on the head. If you are making $300,000 plus, I think it’s one of the greatest cities in the south to live in, otherwise it would suck. I’ve generally found that the more “worldly” a person is - living in large cities - frequent travel l, the more they appreciate the New Orleans lifestyle
New Orleans has easy access to a variety of cultural activities and sports. Something going all of the time and interesting people focused more on living full lives than other places I’ve encountered.
I’ve lived in a number of major cities and travel frequently- always enjoy coming home.
New Orleans has easy access to a variety of cultural activities and sports. Something going all of the time and interesting people focused more on living full lives than other places I’ve encountered.
I’ve lived in a number of major cities and travel frequently- always enjoy coming home.
Posted on 4/29/20 at 2:48 pm to tgrbaitn08
quote:ahh, didn't catch the year
That was an excerpt from an article that was written in 1978
Posted on 4/29/20 at 2:49 pm to TJG210
Ironically one of the main contributors to New Orleans’ rise also contributed heavily to its fall. Cotton. Harvesting it back in the old days was so damn labor intensive. But on the bright side we have SEC football ..
Posted on 4/29/20 at 2:49 pm to TJG210
Moon Landrieu when he started to run wypippo out of NOLA to the other side of the lake. Both sides lost in that one.
This post was edited on 4/29/20 at 2:50 pm
Posted on 4/29/20 at 2:50 pm to TJG210
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What started New Orleans on its downward trajectory?
Posted on 4/29/20 at 2:52 pm to TJG210
A big part of it was the inventory tax. Louisiana started taxing businesses for the stock they held on hand. The idea was to profit more off of the ports. What it did was cause shipping companies to pull out en-masse and start operating via the Houston ship channel instead. New Orleans and Baton Rouge’s warehouse districts essentially became abandoned, and distribution plants for trucking moved across the borders to Mississippi and Texas. The state then tried an inventory tax credit system, but it turned into a massive ponzy scheme.
The airport also was a major f$&kup. Opponents of the expansion of the airport ensured certain other developments happened so it couldn’t expand further into the swamps in St. Charles Parish. Thus, when Houston, Dallas, and Miami expanded their airports, they stole most of the international flights down to central and south America which had been msy’s bread and butter.
Obviously, desegregation triggered white flight in the 60’s and 70’s, but the oil crunch in the early 80’s really rocked the economy of the whole state. The end result of the oil crunch was the death of smaller oil hubs like Shreveport, Baton Rouge, and New Orleans and the industry mostly consolidating in Houston with only satellite presence in places like Lafayette and Houma.
With the ports and oil getting killed by competition in Houston, the city turned almost exclusively to tourism in the late 80’s through to Katrina.
The airport also was a major f$&kup. Opponents of the expansion of the airport ensured certain other developments happened so it couldn’t expand further into the swamps in St. Charles Parish. Thus, when Houston, Dallas, and Miami expanded their airports, they stole most of the international flights down to central and south America which had been msy’s bread and butter.
Obviously, desegregation triggered white flight in the 60’s and 70’s, but the oil crunch in the early 80’s really rocked the economy of the whole state. The end result of the oil crunch was the death of smaller oil hubs like Shreveport, Baton Rouge, and New Orleans and the industry mostly consolidating in Houston with only satellite presence in places like Lafayette and Houma.
With the ports and oil getting killed by competition in Houston, the city turned almost exclusively to tourism in the late 80’s through to Katrina.
Posted on 4/29/20 at 2:57 pm to TJG210
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Well into the 60’s it was on par with Houston and Atlanta and then just fell off the map. Did it start with moon landrieu or was it headed down prior?
As former Mayor Carcetti said, it started with "schools and crime."
When the former sucks and the latter is out of control, your city turns to sh*t pretty quickly, e.g. New Orleans, Baltimore, etc.
Posted on 4/29/20 at 2:59 pm to kingbob
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Louisiana started taxing businesses for the stock they held on hand. The idea was to profit more off of the ports. What it did was cause shipping companies to pull out en-masse and start operating via the Houston ship channel instead
The general attitude was “what are you going to do, move to Houston?”
New Orleans’ location became less valuable as the state and mafia kept digging into people’s pockets
Posted on 4/29/20 at 3:05 pm to TJG210
New Orleans is better than Houston and Atlanta
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