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re: What Moron Made Unemployment More Lucrative Then Working

Posted on 5/3/20 at 6:38 pm to
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 5/3/20 at 6:38 pm to
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That moron is the one who pays his/her employees so low that unemployment is more lucrative.




So everyone should be paid at least $800 a week regardless of hours worked or duties?
This post was edited on 5/3/20 at 6:40 pm
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
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Posted on 5/3/20 at 6:41 pm to
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So everyone should be paid at least $800 a week regardless of hours worked or duties?

$20 hr minimum wage. Enjoy your $9 gallon of milk
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 5/3/20 at 6:46 pm to
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$20 hr minimum wage.


The Marxist generally believe it takes away profits from the wealthy, but that's because they learned economics from a philosopher.

If you exponentially raise the min wage for the lowest paid workers, they will have fewer jobs.
This post was edited on 5/3/20 at 6:47 pm
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
61736 posts
Posted on 5/3/20 at 6:47 pm to
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forgiven, but now their employees don’t want to come back to work because they earn more not doing shite. Now said employers may not get loan forgiven, what a clusterfrick!
the employer should pay more than unemployment. He was given two months free.
Posted by lostinbr
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2017
12866 posts
Posted on 5/3/20 at 6:52 pm to
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the employer should pay more than unemployment. He was given two months free.

And here I thought the intention of PPP was to incentivize business owners to reopen and put staff back to work despite reduced revenue due to the shutdowns. I never realized that it was just a windfall profit, and that things were business-as-usual otherwise. Learn something new every day!
Posted by lostinbr
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2017
12866 posts
Posted on 5/3/20 at 7:06 pm to
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Also, if these companies paid a living wage, people would be more willing to go back to work. But nooopppeeee, we let employers pay $7.25/hr, even less to servers, and then are SHOCKED and APPALLED that people wouldn't willingly go back to earn those shite wages when the government is literally paying them more to sit on their asses.

My company is having trouble getting $18/hr employees to come back to work. You going to tell me $18/hr isn’t a living wage?
Posted by Sayre
South Bend, Indiana
Member since Nov 2011
5754 posts
Posted on 5/3/20 at 7:47 pm to
None of you dumb motherfrickers understand the real reason behind the extra 600.

It's ultimately about keeping some amount of money flowing in the economy, period. That extra 600 keeps the wider economy at least having some support instead of having nothing being spent and massively lessens the longer term effects of, say, Louisiana's pittance of 247 being the only amount someone can put into the system.

It's not about benefiting certain people. It's about keeping a steady, if marginal, amount of economic stability.
This post was edited on 5/3/20 at 7:49 pm
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
46755 posts
Posted on 5/3/20 at 7:57 pm to
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It's ultimately about keeping some amount of money flowing in the economy, period. That extra 600 keeps the wider economy at least having some support instead of having nothing being spent and massively lessens the longer term effects of, say, Louisiana's pittance of 247 being the only amount someone can put into the system.

It's not about benefiting certain people. It's about keeping a steady, if marginal, amount of economic stability.




Or, you know, we could not add trillions to the national debt and open the economy back up instead.

But nah. Where's the opportunity for abuse and graft in that?
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
35695 posts
Posted on 5/3/20 at 7:57 pm to
Senators and congressmen that had no clue how little some states paid in unemployment
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
Cajun Navy Vice Admiral
Member since Oct 2012
41927 posts
Posted on 5/3/20 at 8:01 pm to
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My company is having trouble getting $18/hr employees to come back to work. You going to tell me $18/hr isn’t a living wage?



36k/year pre-tax? You're on the edge
Posted by noonan
Nassau Bay, TX
Member since Aug 2005
37017 posts
Posted on 5/3/20 at 8:10 pm to
*Than
Posted by lostinbr
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2017
12866 posts
Posted on 5/3/20 at 9:36 pm to
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36k/year pre-tax? You're on the edge

The median household income in Louisiana is $48k.

Individuals are being paid ~8% less than the median household income in Louisiana to stay home. If two members of a household collect unemployment benefits, it’s the equivalent of a ~$90k/year household income.

The breakeven point with the current unemployment benefits is over $21/hr. That’s more than my wife made as an RN fresh out of college. Then you have to consider the fact that breaking even is not really enough when the alternative doesn’t require any actual work.

Anyone who thinks entry-level, unskilled jobs in Louisiana should be paying $20/hr+ is either lying or living in a fantasy land.
Posted by Sayre
South Bend, Indiana
Member since Nov 2011
5754 posts
Posted on 5/4/20 at 12:58 am to
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Or, you know, we could not add trillions to the national debt and open the economy back up instead.

But nah. Where's the opportunity for abuse and graft in that?


Have you been bitching about the trillions of dollars being added to the debt from that tax cut right after he took office?

If the answer is no, you're a hypocrite.
Posted by OLDBEACHCOMBER
Member since Jan 2004
7621 posts
Posted on 5/4/20 at 9:37 am to
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But is this really the case


It is at our plant, many are over 58 ish and aren't returning. Even though they are losing a little bit, they don't have to union dues.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
46755 posts
Posted on 5/4/20 at 9:40 am to
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Have you been bitching about the trillions of dollars being added to the debt from that tax cut right after he took office?



And you're a fricking moron if you equate letting people keep more of their money equates to people being payed to not work because of a virus that doesn't effect 99% of the population.

ETA: And for the record, I was quite vocal about the tax cuts happening in line with equal cuts in government spending.

But that idea was tried and shite-canned by the usual suspects in Congress, of both parties.
This post was edited on 5/4/20 at 9:43 am
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
Cajun Navy Vice Admiral
Member since Oct 2012
41927 posts
Posted on 5/4/20 at 9:45 am to
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The median household income in Louisiana is $48k.


Louisiana is poor as shite

I didn't say 36k was not a livable wage. But it's close.
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