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Posted on 9/3/19 at 5:26 pm to The Spleen
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many of the social problems we have today grew from that decade.
I'm also interested in hearing which social problems today grew from the 60's, and how and why you think that.
I think it's silly to ignore that major social problems arose from the 60's. Nothing in history is without its trade-offs, and the 60's certainly had a lot of them.
Specifically,
- the beginning of the disintegration of the nuclear family, especially in the African-American community
- an exponentially higher rate of hardcore drug use and abuse
- a hyper-individualism that can be poisonous in certain forms
That's without getting into the political problems like the destruction of the legitimacy of and trust in political leadership and the radical violence that started tearing into the social fabric. While the decade peaked at Woodstock, the future of the movement was precipitated at Altamont. The 70's were a really shitty decade for this country.
This post was edited on 9/3/19 at 5:28 pm
Posted on 9/3/19 at 5:33 pm to Zappas Stache
quote:hyperbole much?
It was great if you were a white male. Women weren't allowed to do much of anything unless they had their husbands permission. Very much like modern day Saudi Arabia.
Posted on 9/3/19 at 5:44 pm to AbuTheMonkey
quote:Moynihan Report
the beginning of the disintegration of the nuclear family, especially in the African-American community
quote:It's around 80% now
When Moynihan published his report in 1965, the out-of-wedlock birthrate among blacks was 25 percent
Posted on 9/3/19 at 5:49 pm to weagle99
It produced the best music by a pretty wide margin. The rest...
Posted on 9/3/19 at 5:52 pm to brewhan davey
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Mad Men
The theme of mad men is this country slipping from the idyllic panacea of the 50s to the cess pool that we have today
Posted on 9/3/19 at 5:56 pm to Kafka
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the beginning of the disintegration of the nuclear family, especially in the African-American community
Moynihan Report
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When Moynihan published his report in 1965, the out-of-wedlock birthrate among blacks was 25 percent
It's around 80% now
I think the response you'll get from those who disagree with this is that the War on Drugs was the cause of many of these problems.
What they forget is that the War on Drugs was much more of a response to, rather than a cause of, most of the problems that the changes in the 60's begot.
The murder rate had already doubled between 1962 and 1970 when the WoD kicked off in earnest. The out-of-wedlock birth rate was already spiraling out of control, as were the drug abuse rates (especially for the harder drugs like coke and heroin).
I tend not to think the 50's were these halcyon days of yore, even in white suburbia, but it is undeniable that some of the cultural changes of the 60's had major negative impacts on American society. The data alone bears that out.
Posted on 9/3/19 at 5:59 pm to weagle99
Piss on the 1960s.
Shitty generation.
Shitty generation.
Posted on 9/3/19 at 5:59 pm to AbuTheMonkey
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The 70's were a really shitty decade for this country.
A decade that produced Three's Company can't be all bad.
Posted on 9/3/19 at 6:03 pm to Jim Rockford
quote:quote:A decade that produced Three's Company can't be all bad.
The 70's were a really shitty decade for this country.
How could you miss such a great setup?
quote:FIFY
A decade that produced Jim Rockford can't be all bad.
Posted on 9/3/19 at 6:05 pm to Kafka
Posted on 9/3/19 at 6:05 pm to AbuTheMonkey
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the beginning of the disintegration of the nuclear family, especially in the African-American community
This was caused by politics.
Posted on 9/3/19 at 6:12 pm to 4x4tiger
If you believed the media and history books, you'd actually think JFK was a great president.
Posted on 9/3/19 at 6:13 pm to TheFonz
Fonz, you ignorant, angry shite.
Get therapy.
Get therapy.
Posted on 9/3/19 at 6:27 pm to TheFonz
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Should have elected Goldwater in ‘64.
I recall Buddy Roemer being interviewed and talking about the 64 election. He said he was warned that if he voted for Goldwater, we'd be in a ground war in Vietnam within a year. He then stated that he voted for Goldwater and sure enough, we were in a ground war in Vietnam by the end of 65.
Posted on 9/3/19 at 6:31 pm to weagle99
Shows the true colors of its fans.
Women could be denied academic scholarships or admission to college simply for being women. K-12 segregation lasted throughout the decade. Conscription was government policy. The environment was trashed to the point that rivers caught fire.
But muh drugs and promiscuity so it's a great decade.
Women could be denied academic scholarships or admission to college simply for being women. K-12 segregation lasted throughout the decade. Conscription was government policy. The environment was trashed to the point that rivers caught fire.
But muh drugs and promiscuity so it's a great decade.
Posted on 9/3/19 at 6:39 pm to kingbob
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Nazi socialists had infiltrated the government and media through the 1940’s
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This group would infiltrate the media through Operation Mockingbird (also created by Truman) installing socialist CIA agents in charge of all major media and propaganda outlets while ensuring that future presidents would have zero oversight if they even knew of their existence. Hoover at the FBI served as a gestapo agent for this faction.
Nazi socialists control the media, huh? Can I get a list of these nazi socialists? TIA.
Posted on 9/3/19 at 6:42 pm to dbeck
quote:Is he hiding behind the scatterbrained drug addict?
Gave us one of the greatest writers who ever lived
This post was edited on 9/3/19 at 6:52 pm
Posted on 9/3/19 at 6:43 pm to SoFla Tideroller
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If you believed the media and history books, you'd actually think JFK was a great president.
I don't believe either but I think he was a pretty decent one. Martyrdom can propel one from decent to great, I suppose.
One thing he definitely was NOT? A proponent of peace. He was a full on Cold Warrior and ran as one.
Posted on 9/3/19 at 6:56 pm to weagle99
1. Kennedy stole the election - 1960 (see Joe Kennedy/Chicago/Mayor Daly/Mafia)
2. Cold War/Space Race/Vietnam Nam/Cuban Missile Crisis/Nukes/Military-Industrial Complex/Civil Rights marches->Long Hot Summers/violence
3. Assassinations: JFK, RFK, MLK, George C. Wallace
4. Voting age/Silent Majority
5. Sexual revolution
6. Drugs
7. Music—>doo wop—>Elvis/British Invasion—>American response/Hard Rock/Psychedelics/Pop Festivals
8. Southern Strategy
9. Collapse/rejection of Judeo Christian values
2. Cold War/Space Race/Vietnam Nam/Cuban Missile Crisis/Nukes/Military-Industrial Complex/Civil Rights marches->Long Hot Summers/violence
3. Assassinations: JFK, RFK, MLK, George C. Wallace
4. Voting age/Silent Majority
5. Sexual revolution
6. Drugs
7. Music—>doo wop—>Elvis/British Invasion—>American response/Hard Rock/Psychedelics/Pop Festivals
8. Southern Strategy
9. Collapse/rejection of Judeo Christian values
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