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re: What is your assessment of the 1960’s?
Posted on 9/4/19 at 8:11 am to lsunurse
Posted on 9/4/19 at 8:11 am to lsunurse
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Yes because forcing two people to get married just because they fricked and are now expecting a kid is just setting up for a wonderful environment for a child to be raised in.
I do believe in marriage....which is why I feel like it should be taken seriously as a life long commitment...and not something used to make sure a woman is seen as respectable.
If you were a woman in the 60s and pregnant and didn't believe in abortion(whether or not it was legal)...your only acceptable option was get married asap.
I know this is your opinion and your world view, but I wholly disagree. The 60’s saw a significant decrease in personal responsibility and significant increase in dependence on government to care for children. Neither of which is good
Posted on 9/4/19 at 8:49 am to weagle99
Few movies showed the decade's narcissistic self-indulgence and inflated sense of its own importance better than this one did.
Albeit inadvertently and without apparent irony. Not a likable character among them.
Albeit inadvertently and without apparent irony. Not a likable character among them.
Posted on 9/4/19 at 8:49 am to weagle99
started great...turned to shite by the end
Posted on 9/4/19 at 8:59 am to weagle99
1960’s. Great music, cool clothes, fantastic innovation and exploration (space), but horrible counterculture and the negative effects are felt strongly today. Never before has there been such a complete upheaval of American ideals and glaring change than from the years 1960 to 1970.
Posted on 9/4/19 at 8:59 am to lsunurse
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Still not the freedom they have today.
They had the pill and no AIDS, means more freedom
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Still would be a heavy stigma if a woman was pregnant and not married.
Wish this was still the case. While not a perfect world it did keep things in check with the concept of shame so lost in todays world. It is not that clothes are the issue but it seems behavior / manners are better when folks are dressed up and have some general rules for behavior of the society as a whole.
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Still would be treated like little more than handmaidens
As someone involved with the women movement early on I agree to disagree. While it was a time of change it was a time for leaders to emerge with real power and views as opposed to what the modern movement has devolved to. Fighting to be equal back then was a good thing as opposed to the "victim" and ""hate" I see in young women today who identify themselves as feminists.
Posted on 9/4/19 at 9:18 am to Cheese Grits
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As someone involved with the women movement early on I agree to disagree
Were you a nurse during this time? Cause that was my specific example....being treated like crap as a nurse back then.
My grandmother was and told me many stories about what it was like as a nurse back then. Back then you never dared question what the doctor ordered if you were just a lowly nurse. Doctors ordered it....you carried out the orders. Also the pay for nurses was not as great as it is now (obviously factoring in inflation). There were not all the career opportunities there are today in the world of nursing.
Also.....the birth control pill that was released in the 60s had numerous problems. Women having strokes because they hadn’t connected the dots yet that women smokers on the pill are at a heavy risk for strokes.
Again....I’m just saying there is no appeal to me as a woman to have been a young woman in the 1960s.
Just because pregnant young women were forced into marriage to stay respectable doesn’t mean it was a great wholesome society. Just means you had more unhappy marriages likely full of infidelity and domestic abuse (cause back then a woman never dared report an abusive spouse). I would gather most people on this board had sex before marriage so it’s hypocritical of posters to judge an unmarried woman who is pregnant.
I’m not talking a teenager who is pregnant btw. I’m talking young women in their 20s. At least now a young woman has more options than being forced into marriage or a back alley abortion(btw....I hate abortion). And if they wanted to give the child up for adoption they didn’t have to “go away” for a year to avoid shaming the family.
Posted on 9/4/19 at 9:36 am to RogerTheShrubber
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High school graduation in 1965 was below 50%, college graduation was below 10% of the adult population.
Good point and relevant today.
50% being too small a number for high school graduation in a "modern, developed 1st World nation", the country had this big push to improve that number. They did and it is currently at 90%, but unfortunately all they wound up doing was dumbing down the nation's high school graduates. Sure, we have a higher % of high school graduates, but so many of them can barely read or write a complete sentence, know any history, or can perform anything above simple math.
Likewise with the college grads. Immediately after WW II, the percentage of college grads was around 5% - one in twenty. As you stated, by 1965 it had doubled to 10%. Being a college grad back then MEANT something. When I graduated from college a little over 30 years ago, it was about 20%- 1 in 5. Now, it is 34%-- over a THIRD.
And we have a bunch of idiot college grads running around.
This post was edited on 9/4/19 at 9:37 am
Posted on 9/4/19 at 10:00 am to gthog61
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What is called "the 60's" was more like 1966 to 1974.
Close.
Start of "The Sixties" has been debated, but generally conceded as the one-year period from November 1963 to November 1964, in which the following occurred more or less in order:
-- Kennedy assassination
-- Beatles arrival in America
-- Freedom Summer
-- Signing of Civil Rights Act
-- Gulf of Tonkin resolution/real start of Vietnam War.
-- Johnson defeating Goldwater
End of 60s/start of 70s is less clear, but I personally put it somewhere around mid-1972/mid-1973 with the following key events:
-- George Wallace survived an assassination attempt but was paralyzed form the waist down
-- Palestinian terrorist massacre of Israeli athletes at the 1972 summer Olympics
-- Nixon was re-elected
-- January 1973 - Paris Peace Accords were signed, immediately followed by POWs beginning to come home
-- Watergate heated up in February 1973 with the Senate voting to establish a committee to investigate Watergate.
Posted on 9/4/19 at 3:49 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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The 70's were an economic disaster for the middle class. This "boomers had it easy" is revisionist crap. The entire decade was a struggle. This inflation run started in '72 and lasted about 10 years, coupled with economic stagnation and the shedding of blue collar jobs.
Yeah, until then it was cake. By then the boomers were young adults, basically that century's version of millennials. Some woke up, and many stayed in the counter culture communist bullshite they were fed in school. Those are the ones that made the movies and other media justifying and glorifying the lack of self control in modern culture.
Posted on 9/4/19 at 3:52 pm to tigahbruh
At least the hippies gave us great music. What do these left wing clowns give us in 2019?
Posted on 9/4/19 at 4:53 pm to weagle99
I was born then so at least they have that going for them...
Posted on 9/4/19 at 5:27 pm to weagle99
It gave us The Andy Griffith Show, that’s awesome!
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