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What is wrong with modern dentistry?
Posted on 3/8/19 at 10:26 am
Posted on 3/8/19 at 10:26 am
In short, I had a wisdom tooth come in at an awkward angle which put a hole in my right-most molar.
My dentist scheduled an appointment with an endodontist in a completely different town to have the wisdom tooth removed.
Before that though, I have a build up performed on the tooth with the hole. I'm told that a root canal shouldn't be necessary. I'm booked a month later to come back and have a temporary crown put on at the end of March. I have to wait 3 weeks for the real crown.
I kept having problems with the tooth where the buildup was performed, so I had to go back to my dentist to have him look at it. He scheduled a root canal with, again, a different dentist (endodontist). The endodontist performed the root canal but only put a temporary filling in. I have to go back for a second appointment on Monday for the permanent filling.
That is 8 appointments across 3 different doctors over a 3 month span. I find that absolutely insane.
My dentist scheduled an appointment with an endodontist in a completely different town to have the wisdom tooth removed.
Before that though, I have a build up performed on the tooth with the hole. I'm told that a root canal shouldn't be necessary. I'm booked a month later to come back and have a temporary crown put on at the end of March. I have to wait 3 weeks for the real crown.
I kept having problems with the tooth where the buildup was performed, so I had to go back to my dentist to have him look at it. He scheduled a root canal with, again, a different dentist (endodontist). The endodontist performed the root canal but only put a temporary filling in. I have to go back for a second appointment on Monday for the permanent filling.
That is 8 appointments across 3 different doctors over a 3 month span. I find that absolutely insane.
This post was edited on 3/8/19 at 10:27 am
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Posted on 3/8/19 at 10:33 am to BulldogXero
Posted on 3/8/19 at 10:33 am to BulldogXero
It sounds like you found 3 shitty dentists who don;t mind taking you for a ride.
Contact a lawyer and sue them all for malpractice.
Contact a lawyer and sue them all for malpractice.
Posted on 3/8/19 at 10:33 am to BulldogXero
Theyve become the used car salesman of the medical world. The last five or so times ive been theyve tried to sell me on some $2000 worth of BS i didnt know i needed and pushed some finance company on me
Posted on 3/8/19 at 10:39 am to BulldogXero
Once upon a time a general dentist would have done all of this, now they have split off into specialties. There are still some dentist that will do their own root canals if they are of a simple nature. Some dentist have the equipment to do crowns in office in one visit, while others still do the two step process and sent it to a dental lab. You just have to shop around and see who can do what.
Posted on 3/8/19 at 10:39 am to Malefic Runt
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Theyve become the used car salesman of the medical world. The last five or so times ive been theyve tried to sell me on some $2000 worth of BS i didnt know i needed and pushed some finance company on me
When I was a kid, I had a local dentist tell me I had 9 cavities. I got a second opinion and found out I had none. I don't doubt there are a lot of dishonest dentists out there.
That said, I had a lot of dental work done as a kid, and I don't remember getting passed around to so many different "specialist" dentists. It's so bizarre to me that root canals and wisdom tooth extraction aren't part of what a regular dentist does. It's like having a Gastroenterologist who refers you to a stomach specialist then a kidney specialist then a colon specialist, etc.
Seems like all a family dentist actually does is fill cavities.
Posted on 3/8/19 at 10:39 am to Malefic Runt
Mine is awesome. Found him when we moved up here 15 years ago. He’s real patient and likes to watch spots for a while before he actually suggests a filling. I think I’ve had two fillings and a crown in 15 years. And one was redoing an old filling from 20+ years ago. He also is quick to refer to an oral surgeon if it is something more than the basic stuff. He really just wants us to be satisfied with what we’re getting and doesn’t just drill and fill to collect that insurance money.
Posted on 3/8/19 at 10:40 am to BulldogXero
You are an anti-dentite!
Posted on 3/8/19 at 10:41 am to Malefic Runt
The problem is that dentists look at their profession as a business first and foremost. They actually build in business school classes into dentist school.
Their practice is set up with making the most money possible and that is in the back of their heads.
MDs usually don't work or think this way, but unfortunately for us, hospital administrators do and have been squeezing every cent out of the patients for some time now.
Their practice is set up with making the most money possible and that is in the back of their heads.
MDs usually don't work or think this way, but unfortunately for us, hospital administrators do and have been squeezing every cent out of the patients for some time now.
Posted on 3/8/19 at 10:49 am to LSUtwolves
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MDs usually don't work or think this way
Ya, ok.
Posted on 3/8/19 at 10:51 am to BulldogXero
They need someone to pay for all their trips and lavish lifestyles.
Posted on 3/8/19 at 10:52 am to Open Dore Policy
You anti-dentite bastard
Posted on 3/8/19 at 10:53 am to BulldogXero
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When I was a kid, I had a local dentist tell me I had 9 cavities.
Similar story. Four cavities at 19 years old with no insurance. Couldn't afford it and said frick it. 9 years later different dentist different town zero cavities. I asked him if cavities can go away and he said no.
Posted on 3/8/19 at 10:54 am to LSUtwolves
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MDs usually don't work or think this way,
maybe they should start, docs are some of the worst money mangers/business people I've seen, not all of course, just in general
Posted on 3/8/19 at 10:55 am to BulldogXero
Boat payments.
Posted on 3/8/19 at 10:57 am to 777Tiger
It's pretty true. Most docs have zero money sense and die poor. Sure, they make a lot while working, but they don't know how to manage the shite.
Posted on 3/8/19 at 10:59 am to BulldogXero
I am a dentist and my problem with modern dentistry is the whole marketing game that’s going on. I hate that our profession has lowered itself to the likes of the Groupons and Morris Bart-style billboards.
As far as everything under one roof goes, I think it’s due to advancements in technology in the healthcare field as a whole. Having the necessary armamentarium to be considered standard of care for all procedures under the general dentistry umbrella has become unbelievably expensive. Those crown machines you reference are roughly $150,000 up front and a service fee of a few thousand per month. Specialists are able to limit the tools they need to one specific area of practice. As a practitioner, I recognize this and know that a higher quality root canal will be done with an endodontic specialist, for example, and will offer that route to my patients. Same for more involved oral surgery situations. Also, not to mention the extensive training these guys get in post-grad versus the 3-day weekend CE dental implant certification course in the Bahamas
As far as everything under one roof goes, I think it’s due to advancements in technology in the healthcare field as a whole. Having the necessary armamentarium to be considered standard of care for all procedures under the general dentistry umbrella has become unbelievably expensive. Those crown machines you reference are roughly $150,000 up front and a service fee of a few thousand per month. Specialists are able to limit the tools they need to one specific area of practice. As a practitioner, I recognize this and know that a higher quality root canal will be done with an endodontic specialist, for example, and will offer that route to my patients. Same for more involved oral surgery situations. Also, not to mention the extensive training these guys get in post-grad versus the 3-day weekend CE dental implant certification course in the Bahamas
This post was edited on 3/8/19 at 11:23 am
Posted on 3/8/19 at 11:00 am to BulldogXero
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That is 8 appointments across 3 different doctors over a 3 month span. I find that absolutely insane.
In my family, we already have our own dentists, endodontists, periodontists and oral surgeons lined up. Never let someone else vet your healthcare professionals.
Edit to add:
I didn't realize when I posted that you were from Mississippi. There is a low dental healthcare professional presence in that state (0.397 per 1,000 people...lowest in the U.S.). With that crazy ratio, I'm sure they are swamped and you would have to wait longer for appointments than you would in other states.
State dentists per capita
This post was edited on 3/8/19 at 11:04 am
Posted on 3/8/19 at 11:01 am to sean5340
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Similar story. Four cavities at 19 years old with no insurance. Couldn't afford it and said frick it. 9 years later different dentist different town zero cavities. I asked him if cavities can go away and he said no.
Small pre-cavities actually can I believe. I'm sure that's what I had.
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