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re: What is the point of a debate?

Posted on 2/17/26 at 3:46 pm to
Posted by facher08
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Posted on 2/17/26 at 3:46 pm to
I recommend the Munk debates to show a good representation of civil discourse. The crowd votes how they feel about a topic before the debate begins, two sides go back and forth over policy issues, and another poll is taken at the end to show how people's ideas may have moved. This was one of the better ones on meida bias where the audience's preconceived notions were flipped. Douglas Murray and Matt Taibii against Malcolm Gladwell and a NYT columnist. I would have linked the Munk debates directly, but they disabled playback.

Posted by nicholastiger
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Posted on 2/17/26 at 3:54 pm to
It made biden leave the president race
Posted by kywildcatfanone
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Posted on 2/17/26 at 4:00 pm to
Ratings
Posted by chryso
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 2/17/26 at 4:06 pm to
Please name some far left extremist podcasters.
Posted by DustyDinkleman
Here
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Posted on 2/17/26 at 4:08 pm to
To gain knowledge one must change their own opinions.

Simply lacking to ever change your mind on a topic is a very ignorant way to live.
Posted by upgrayedd
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Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 2/17/26 at 4:10 pm to
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Found the guy who knows he would lose.

You can say what you want about his debate abilities but calling him far right is just straight up retarded.
Posted by JiminyCricket
Member since Jun 2017
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Posted on 2/17/26 at 4:13 pm to
Debates aren’t always to convince the other person so much as it’s an attempt to convince the audience.
Posted by themetalreb
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Posted on 2/17/26 at 4:18 pm to
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but calling him far right is just straight up retarded.


Calm down. I simply called him what a quick research of the interwebs labeled him. FTR, I agree with him on almost everything.
Posted by RohanGonzales
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Posted on 2/17/26 at 4:22 pm to
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Please name some far left extremist podcasters.


Why would anyone here want to be able to do that?

The problem is the moderate left barely still exists.
Posted by Areddishfish
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Member since Oct 2015
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Posted on 2/17/26 at 4:24 pm to
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What is the point of a debate?


Arguably, people still think they can change people's point of views with classical persuasion, but now it's mostly seen as just performing an art in a way. People couldn't care less about facts nowadays.
Posted by Harry Caray
Denial
Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 2/17/26 at 4:28 pm to
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Debates aren’t always to convince the other person so much as it’s an attempt to convince the audience.

Which is why a certain party demanded no fact-checking at debates
Posted by bengalbait
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Posted on 2/17/26 at 4:32 pm to
Way back in the early 80s when high schools had debate teams, we would study the art of rhetoric and factual discourse. You were given a list of debatable topics and had to research's both sides of the argument. You never knew whether you would cover pro or con until the moderator assigned you a position. That is the true value of debate. To be able to weigh the facts on both sides objectively.
Posted by Sofaking2
Member since Apr 2023
21140 posts
Posted on 2/17/26 at 4:34 pm to
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Found the guy who knows he would lose.

Found the male feminist, lol. They won’t respect your more for pandering to them Wackit
This post was edited on 2/17/26 at 4:35 pm
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 2/17/26 at 4:35 pm to
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far right
Could you define that term ... precisely, please?

I keep seeing the term "far right" associated with German Socialists from the 1930's.
But obviously Socialists are leftists. Can you clear up your meaning?
Posted by GRTiger
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Posted on 2/17/26 at 4:37 pm to
With Marxism being so hot these days, the far right now starts around what we historically called the moderate left.

Posted by Sofaking2
Member since Apr 2023
21140 posts
Posted on 2/17/26 at 4:39 pm to
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Please name some far left extremist podcasters.

Nearly all of them are in the mainstream media. The mainstream media makes up 90% liberal democrats. You will find them there working in television, news, a lot of dying platforms.
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
122105 posts
Posted on 2/17/26 at 4:39 pm to
I always thought debates were for nerds. I remember this guy I knew at the time was telling me and some other people he wasn't going out anywhere that night.. It was during the campaign of George Bush's 2nd term. So 2004? Anyway this dude was like "tonight is the presidential debate" and we all gave him a hard time about it..

People telling him shite like "watching presidential debates is how you definitely lock down pussy ", but now, especially on youtube people call out each other "I challenged them to a debate. Tell him to debate me or shut up".. I have to remind myself that is the norm these days. It doesn't make someone a "nerd who sucks" if they want to debate.
Posted by Harry Caray
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Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 2/17/26 at 4:39 pm to
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I keep seeing the term "far right" associated with German Socialists from the 1930's.

Nazis weren't socialist despite their party name. Hope this helps.


quote:

Nazism is a far-right fascist ideology characterized by fervent antisemitism, scientific racism, and social Darwinism, aiming to establish an Aryan "master race" (Herrenrasse) and achieve Lebensraum (living space). It rejects liberal democracy, communism, and equality, favoring a dictatorship based on the Führerprinzip (leader principle).
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
122105 posts
Posted on 2/17/26 at 4:40 pm to
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I don't care about the winning a debate crap...I just want the OP to define "far right"


Debate him about it
Posted by Sofaking2
Member since Apr 2023
21140 posts
Posted on 2/17/26 at 4:41 pm to
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moderate left.

There is no room for them anymore. The John Breaux’s of the world are basically gone forever. The Democrats forced them out with the nut jobs running the party.
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