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re: What is the logic of the slow reopening?

Posted on 5/5/20 at 10:01 am to
Posted by JDPndahizzy
JDP
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Posted on 5/5/20 at 10:01 am to
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Create enough fear so that people will line up for a vaccine that will increase the likelihood of them getting the virus. At the end of the day, it's all about making money.

LINK

Wow... That video is very eye opening.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 5/5/20 at 10:02 am to
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The theory is the virus still spreads, but at a much lower rate. A rate that would not put our hospitals over capacity.

this talking point died in early April b/c our hospitals aren't anywhere near critical capacity, even in hot spots like LA/NYC

it's an insane view anywhere other than hot spots, which i don't know if they truly even exist at this moment

Posted by Mufassa
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 5/5/20 at 10:03 am to
I do. The theory is that we can reach collective immunity either quickly or slowly, and I f we reach it quickly, too many people will be infected at once and we won’t be able to accommodate all of the critical cases.
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 5/5/20 at 10:04 am to
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They should have been opening as hospital capacity was available. The virus is not going away and people will continue to get it. Might as well have people get it when availability is there.

That doesn't work when you can spread the virus for 10-14 days without knowing you have it, and we don't have nearly enough tests to regularly test people. You can get a huge group of very sick people in a very short time span, and it will just keep increasing over the next 10-14 days even after you've shut everything back down.
Posted by greygoose
Member since Aug 2013
15179 posts
Posted on 5/5/20 at 10:05 am to
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What is the logic of the slow reopening?


It's a very stupid idea.

Some place are telling restaurants they can open at 25% capacity. Demand outweighs supply so you then get a crowd waiting outside for a table to open up. Meanwhile, the business has gone from zero revenue to 25% of normal revenue, which is really no help in keeping the doors open.
Posted by arcalades
USA
Member since Feb 2014
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Posted on 5/5/20 at 10:07 am to
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What is the logic of the slow reopening?
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Businesses still suffer
you answered your own question immediately after the question

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It would be far better to just go back to 100% open immediately.
how does that help demonsrats destroy Trump?
Posted by Landmass
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Posted on 5/5/20 at 10:07 am to
I can't help you. Sorry.
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 5/5/20 at 10:08 am to
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Some place are telling restaurants they can open at 25% capacity. Demand outweighs supply so you then get a crowd waiting outside for a table to open up. Meanwhile, the business has gone from zero revenue to 25% of normal revenue, which is really no help in keeping the doors open.

Are they not able to sell to-go orders?
Posted by Landmass
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Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 5/5/20 at 10:09 am to
This theory has been disproven time and time again. Next!
Posted by greygoose
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 5/5/20 at 10:12 am to
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Are they not able to sell to-go orders?




Yep! Wonder if they've thought of that yet??
Posted by H I McDunnough
Member since Apr 2020
439 posts
Posted on 5/5/20 at 10:16 am to
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I do. The theory is that we can reach collective immunity either quickly or slowly, and I f we reach it quickly, too many people will be infected at once and we won’t be able to accommodate all of the critical cases.



Are you trying to talk sense to these morons? Stop that.
Posted by Methuselah
On da Riva
Member since Jan 2005
23350 posts
Posted on 5/5/20 at 10:18 am to
It's a conspiracy, brah. They want all the alphas to go out and get it and thin them out some. Once that's done, they'll introduce the cure they're sitting on so the betas can take over.

Don't you even OT logic, man.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
71211 posts
Posted on 5/5/20 at 10:20 am to
So politicians look competent and like this wasn’t just some chicken-little over-reactionary crap.
Posted by Tri City Tigers
Member since Oct 2018
2343 posts
Posted on 5/5/20 at 10:26 am to
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I think we have enough data globally to show that this argument is null and void. Even the most open societies did not overwhelm their hospitals. Quit arguing against the data.



I'm not arguing against the data. I just shared what the theory was on why stuff is not opening rapidly.
Posted by RealityTiger
Geismar, LA
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 5/5/20 at 10:28 am to
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So politicians look competent and like this wasn’t just some chicken-little over-reactionary crap.
Times positive infinity.
Posted by greygoose
Member since Aug 2013
15179 posts
Posted on 5/5/20 at 10:32 am to
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That doesn't work when you can spread the virus for 10-14 days without knowing you have it, and we don't have nearly enough tests to regularly test people. You can get a huge group of very sick people in a very short time span, and it will just keep increasing over the next 10-14 days even after you've shut everything back down.


A very large percentage of people who contract the virus, have little to no symptoms. Are you suggesting that EVERYONE is tested before opening back up? How about this idea: If you are in a high-risk group that is susceptible to extreme complications from the virus, you just stay home.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
125114 posts
Posted on 5/5/20 at 10:33 am to
We’re two weeks behind Italy you cretin
Posted by H I McDunnough
Member since Apr 2020
439 posts
Posted on 5/5/20 at 10:36 am to
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So politicians look competent and like this wasn’t just some chicken-little over-reactionary crap.



How many deaths would you need to see before thinking the steps taken to mitigate weren’t overreactionary?
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
125114 posts
Posted on 5/5/20 at 10:37 am to
We should ban cars and sugar next

It’s the only way to be sure
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
71211 posts
Posted on 5/5/20 at 10:39 am to
10,000 deaths in Louisiana, at least as many as the number of annual abortions in this state. That’s when I would start considering closing schools and government offices. Businesses and churches never should be forced to close by the government. Let businesses and customers and workers decide what should be open.

Right now, we have 2000 deaths, the overwhelming majority of which are people who are extremely elderly or already in poor health who would have (and probably actually did) died from their other ailments. Covid isn’t really that dangerous, but it’s contagious enough that our measures have not contained it. It’s running its course because it’s impossible to avoid, but it’s really not that dangerous to those who catch it except to those who are susceptible to everything.
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