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Posted on 2/24/23 at 12:08 pm to MasterDigger
Posted on 2/24/23 at 12:19 pm to Turf Taint
If I recall correctly here's the story in short form:
Christianity is formally legalized in 324 by emperor Constantine.
Pope Nicholas I in the 9th century introduces and formalizes fasting on Fridays, because Jesus died on a Friday so this form of abstinence is a small sacrifice for what Jesus did for all of us.
St. Gregory the VII in the 11th century urges a change from Friday to Saturday (or maybe to include Saturday). My memory may be off.
St. Thomas Aquinas (sometime between the 11th and 13th century) adds milk, egg and lard to the abstinence list, Basically anything that comes from a warm blooded animal.
Pope Innocent III in the 13th century decides formally that it is a sin for Catholics to eat meat on Friday. This was a decision allegedly based on the fishing industry and their slump.
Pope Alexander VII in the 17th century rules that non conformance to this tradition is only a venial sin, not a mortal sin, like it had been for the last 300+ years.
Christianity is formally legalized in 324 by emperor Constantine.
Pope Nicholas I in the 9th century introduces and formalizes fasting on Fridays, because Jesus died on a Friday so this form of abstinence is a small sacrifice for what Jesus did for all of us.
St. Gregory the VII in the 11th century urges a change from Friday to Saturday (or maybe to include Saturday). My memory may be off.
St. Thomas Aquinas (sometime between the 11th and 13th century) adds milk, egg and lard to the abstinence list, Basically anything that comes from a warm blooded animal.
Pope Innocent III in the 13th century decides formally that it is a sin for Catholics to eat meat on Friday. This was a decision allegedly based on the fishing industry and their slump.
Pope Alexander VII in the 17th century rules that non conformance to this tradition is only a venial sin, not a mortal sin, like it had been for the last 300+ years.
Posted on 2/24/23 at 12:24 pm to Turf Taint
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What is meaning behind no meat Fridays during Lent?
Just a Catholic tradition to remind you of the sacrifice that Jesus made on the cross to save his believers' souls.
Posted on 2/24/23 at 12:24 pm to Turf Taint
Fridays during lent are pretty tough up here in Denver. They don['t know what a catfish plate is up here. Unless I go pay $20 at the lost cajun
Posted on 2/24/23 at 12:24 pm to SteelerBravesDawg
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Jesus is just alright with me.
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Micheal McDonald has entered the OT
Actually that would be Tom Johnston.
Posted on 2/24/23 at 12:34 pm to Turf Taint
One of the popes made a deal with fishing countries on the sea during the crusades. Got some financing out of the deal.
Posted on 2/24/23 at 12:35 pm to BayouBengal51
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The intent was deny yourself something earthly in order to strengthen yourself spiritually. You were showing you were willing to sacrifice something as act of penance.
This. Sadly, today people would rather blindly do what they are told and push the limits of rules than to show any discipline.
To me, if you don’t understand lent, don’t do it. And if you don’t get it, you likely haven’t been to church during lent in a very long time because the idea of sacrifice and starting new is hammered home perhaps more than any other teaching of the church.
Posted on 2/24/23 at 12:37 pm to fallguy_1978
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Seems like a lot of the married guys on here abstain from it on other days of the week too
Been married for almost 34 years, and I have it more than most single guys here can only dream of.
Posted on 2/24/23 at 12:39 pm to hellsu
Indeed sir. 
Posted on 2/24/23 at 12:42 pm to Turf Taint
It was lifted in 1966 when the Pope got into the cattle business.
Posted on 2/24/23 at 12:44 pm to Turf Taint
It was the crawfish farmer lobbyist that persuaded Jesus to make this rule to sell more crawfish
Posted on 2/24/23 at 12:48 pm to TIGERHOLD
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I've always wondered why fish somehow does not qualify as meat. I consider it to be such. Does it derive from Jewish law?
It doesn't stand up to any logical scrutiny. Like pescatarians, who say they don't eat meat.
"Meat" when it comes to beef, pork, and chicken is the muscle of those animals.
What is fish, if not the muscle of the fish? Having it often be a different color does not mean it's not the same thing as the other animals. You eat meat guys, just the meat of only a few types of animals.
This post was edited on 2/24/23 at 12:49 pm
Posted on 2/24/23 at 12:53 pm to Ingeniero
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Right. That's why the "all you can eat seafood buffet" types get mocked every year. If they read the actual guidance on fasting, they'd see that it calls for one normal meal and, if necessary, two smaller meals that don't add together to make a full meal. All meatless of course.
The idea that your "fasting" is eating like normal then going to a fish fry for dinner is silly and misses the point.
Some people are confused.
You aren't required to fast and abstain from meat on all Fridays during Lent, only on Good Friday and Ash Wednesday (although some people do the Paschal Fast from Good Friday through Sunday...I don't believe it's required).
On every Friday you are only required to abstain from meat, except for Good Friday where you fast and abstain from meat.
see USCCB
This post was edited on 2/24/23 at 12:55 pm
Posted on 2/24/23 at 12:56 pm to yellowfin
My mom still avoids meat on all Fridays, I just do it during lent. Yes living with good seafood makes this seem like no sacrifice, but as others have mentioned it does make you think about it and hopefully that gets you to reflect on Jesus and God.
The one thing I disagree with and I'm sure we will hear about it next month are years like this one. St. Patrick's day falls on a Friday, so typically the Bishop in New York or Boston or both will give special dispensation to allow the eating of beef. Either honor it as a sacrifice or don't but special carve outs .
The one thing I disagree with and I'm sure we will hear about it next month are years like this one. St. Patrick's day falls on a Friday, so typically the Bishop in New York or Boston or both will give special dispensation to allow the eating of beef. Either honor it as a sacrifice or don't but special carve outs .
Posted on 2/24/23 at 12:59 pm to Geaux-2-L-O-Miss
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The one thing I disagree with and I'm sure we will hear about it next month are years like this one. St. Patrick's day falls on a Friday, so typically the Bishop in New York or Boston or both will give special dispensation to allow the eating of beef. Either honor it as a sacrifice or don't but special carve outs .
Any special feast day is usually given special dispensation, particularly if that feast day is a Saint that is integral in that Parish.
Posted on 2/24/23 at 1:02 pm to Turf Taint
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Why is this inconsistently practiced across the Christian religions?
it's a Catholic thing
Posted on 2/24/23 at 1:04 pm to Turf Taint
Also, notice no one gives up seafood for Lent. That would show you take it seriously versus saying you'll give up beer and wine but not liquor or Dr. Pepper but not other soda lol
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