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re: What is going to happen to IVF treatment?
Posted on 6/24/22 at 3:51 pm to pelicanpride
Posted on 6/24/22 at 3:51 pm to pelicanpride
The IVF throwaways have been a question to consider. How do preaux lifers reconcile??
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Posted on 6/24/22 at 3:53 pm to White Bear
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The IVF throwaways have been a question to consider. How do preaux lifers reconcile??
Impossible to. You can't have God's Will both ways.
Coming from a dad of 1 and a dad of 2 miscarries and DNRs. 19 and 11 weeks, both sons.
Posted on 6/24/22 at 3:55 pm to LB84
This is part of the democrats plan to force us to date single moms
Posted on 6/24/22 at 3:57 pm to beebefootballfan
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Those two kids sitting in my living room watching Sing 2 right now are my blood as far as I’m concerned. They may not have my DNA coursing through their veins but the in my eyes they are my blood.
They aren't, and thankfully they aren't so they don't turn out to be an absolute pieces of shite like you.
Posted on 6/24/22 at 3:58 pm to White Bear
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The IVF throwaways have been a question to consider. How do preaux lifers reconcile??
By not throwing them away
Posted on 6/24/22 at 4:01 pm to jchamil
Keeping an embryo is a financial choice every day. Should IVF be against the law?
Posted on 6/24/22 at 4:02 pm to Sao
My bf and pastor. They had 2 or 3 miscarriages can't remember. Went the IVF route twice and now have 2 healthy kids. Well one is itty bitty precious baby and the other is a 3 year old with stubborn qualities and a passion for Bluey and heavy equipment
Posted on 6/24/22 at 4:04 pm to Sao
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Keeping an embryo is a financial choice every day.
No, it's not once you donate it to another couple.
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Should IVF be against the law?
No, it should be legal.
Posted on 6/24/22 at 4:04 pm to jchamil
quote:Understood. I am fortunate enough to not have been put in the position, it would be a troubling decision IMO.
By not throwing them away
Posted on 6/24/22 at 4:06 pm to beebefootballfan
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Ban IVF and tell couples there are a bunch of babies waiting on adoption.
I’m pro-life. My wife and I couldn’t have kids, we adopted.
It’s not that hard
Dude we are adoptive parents also but saying we should ban IVF is just an awful take.
Posted on 6/24/22 at 4:06 pm to TDsngumbo
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Shocker: the abortion issue is complex as frick
Yes, and Republicans are about to learn that lesson. If you want to be logically consistent, then IVF should be outlawed as well as the morning after pill. But why stop there? Over half of all fertilized eggs will never actually implant into the uterine wall at all, and 20% of those that do will miscarry. So a fertilized egg is really potential life if you think about it. Following that logic, shouldn’t all eggs be considered potential life? That means no more birth control. But what about sperm? No more jerking off. That wastes potential life. Republicans can’t hide behind Roe anymore. It’s time to find out how many of them have balls. I’m am curious as hell, and I’ve got my popcorn ready.
Edit: I’m not saying we SHOULD do any of these things. I think everything mentioned above should remain legal. My point is that Republicans are going to have to be logically inconsistent at some point. The ideologues are going to put them in a tough spot.
This post was edited on 6/24/22 at 4:13 pm
Posted on 6/24/22 at 4:09 pm to beebefootballfan
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Those two kids sitting in my living room watching Sing 2 right now are my blood as far as I’m concerned. They may not have my DNA coursing through their veins but the in my eyes they are my blood.
Now on this we agree on.
My daughter just turned 7 last Saturday. She is my blood as far as I'm concerned even though we didn't bore her and she is a different skin color.
Posted on 6/24/22 at 4:09 pm to HoustonChick86
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We probably spent well over $10K in meds once it was all said and done, no reason some of those can't be covered by insurance. Especially when some of the medicines I were on are also used to treat other things that are covered.
The fact that some of those meds could be used to treat other things is completely irrelevant.
The purpose of insurance is risk pooling. Everyone pays a little for peace of mind, knowing that buying into the pool ensures they can afford (for example) to pay their medical bills after a car accident. Or if they get cancer.
IVF is completely voluntary. Saying it should be covered by insurance is effectively the same as saying “everyone else should have to chip in to fund IVF for those who can’t conceive otherwise.”
I’m not against IVF, but I don’t think it should be everyone’s financial burden either.
Posted on 6/24/22 at 4:11 pm to pelicanpride
wasnt this a problem last month, when the bill that was proposed to be passed in Louisiana?
Posted on 6/24/22 at 4:12 pm to UpToPar
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I suspect there will be.
why? biologically the same thing is happening. sorry, them the breaks.
Posted on 6/24/22 at 4:13 pm to SteelerBravesDawg
Adoption needs to be promoted as a socially accepted option. There seems to be stigma on not "keeping" your baby. I wish pro lifers would spend more time advocating for this and less time arguing pro choicers.
Posted on 6/24/22 at 4:14 pm to lostinbr
A lot of voluntary procedures are covered by insurance if doctors sign off. That's not wholly relevant either.
Now if someone wanted to for some reason do IVF without having fertility issues, that's when insurance should shoot them down.
Now if someone wanted to for some reason do IVF without having fertility issues, that's when insurance should shoot them down.
Posted on 6/24/22 at 4:14 pm to lostinbr
We pay for others birth control and viagra so what is your point?
Posted on 6/24/22 at 4:16 pm to madamsquirrel
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I wish pro lifers would spend more time advocating for this and less time arguing pro choicers.
There’s a lot of this, it’s just not promoted or recognized
Posted on 6/24/22 at 4:23 pm to Lightning
I'm as pro-life/anti-child murder as anyone on here but not sure where this "IVF is against God's plan" concept came from. God bestowed on us the intellect to reach the moon, split the atom, and change the landscape to feed ourselves. IVF, to me, is no different than chemo, artificial heart valves or organ transplants.
I also think the OP's gotcha isn't the gotcha he thinks it is. The embryo isn't viable until it attaches to the uterine wall.
I also think the OP's gotcha isn't the gotcha he thinks it is. The embryo isn't viable until it attaches to the uterine wall.
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