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re: What has made society become so selfishly-violent ala Columbine?
Posted on 2/27/18 at 9:53 pm to PiscesTiger
Posted on 2/27/18 at 9:53 pm to PiscesTiger
Society needs more Jesus. We are 4 pages in a nobody has mentioned it. There is your problem.
How many of these school shootings have happened in Cristian schools?
How many of these school shootings have happened in Cristian schools?
This post was edited on 2/27/18 at 9:57 pm
Posted on 2/27/18 at 9:56 pm to PiscesTiger
More people in close quarters. Statistically inevitable.
Posted on 2/27/18 at 9:58 pm to kingbob
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Zero tolerance policies for fighting in schools
This is interesting
Posted on 2/27/18 at 10:05 pm to PiscesTiger
Culture of death. Steady diet of violence on television and in the movies. That coupled with the collapse of the traditional family. Divorced parent have to go to work to support his/her kids, resulting in kids lacking parental supervision. Rejection of organized religion, resulting in loss of a sense of community. Add to the mix constant upheaval with familes moving across the country to chase after jobs. A lot of things contributed to the violent culture we're now witnessing. I fear it will only get worse.
I hope I'm wrong. But these massacres like Columbine, Sandy Hook and Stoneman Douglas HS are a bad omen. In all these three massacres the shooters were deeply troubled and tormented young men. Two of the killers (Sandy Hook and the Florida HS) were products of broken families.
I hope I'm wrong. But these massacres like Columbine, Sandy Hook and Stoneman Douglas HS are a bad omen. In all these three massacres the shooters were deeply troubled and tormented young men. Two of the killers (Sandy Hook and the Florida HS) were products of broken families.
Posted on 2/27/18 at 10:14 pm to Big_Slim
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Zero tolerance policies for fighting in schools
This is interesting
See, I was a kid when these policies were first put into place. Before, when 2 boys had a disagreement, they would fight each other. The fight would typically resolve the conflict and the fact that they were each willing to stand up for themselves caused each to earn the other's respect and they would be friends after that.
Basically, kids were bullied until they fought back, and then the bully and the bullied kid would become friends.
Once the zero tolerance policy came about, kids didn't get their aggression out that way. The bullies still did their thing, but the responsible kids wouldn't fight back because they would get suspended or even expelled if they did. Because they never fight back, the bullying never stops and just grows and grows and grows. With social media, that crap even follows them home.
Kids who really didn't care, would simply start fights with these intelligent wimps who cared about their grades in a kamakaze to get them both suspended because they knew it would hurt the other kid more than them.
By punishing the aggressor and the defender the same, it made the aggressors a million times more potent and caused the whole "bullying crisis" to blossom in the 2000's.
Basically, those poor picked on kids never fight back until they finally snap, get a gun, and start murdering people. They never get to vent out their rage or solve their problems physically until they boil over in a much more destructive manner.
It's the same problem you see in the gun control debate. The only people who follow the rules are the responsible people. The ones who wish to do harm don't follow the rules. By essentially disarming the responsible kids and preventing them from defending themselves, you turn them into perpetual victims of abuse.
This post was edited on 2/27/18 at 10:20 pm
Posted on 2/27/18 at 10:28 pm to upgrayedd
A few people in this thread have said the world is more peaceful now than ever.
What is this definitive statement based on?
Number of active wars?
Per capita homicides?
What is this definitive statement based on?
Number of active wars?
Per capita homicides?
Posted on 2/27/18 at 10:32 pm to PiscesTiger
The destruction of the 2 parent Christian household
Posted on 2/27/18 at 10:39 pm to PiscesTiger
The end of youth created Rock N Roll :-)) 
Posted on 2/27/18 at 10:47 pm to PiscesTiger
society is struggling to find its way in a time where there is no longer any struggle to survive. Life is far too easy and this has all happened very quickly.
Just a couple generations ago, folks had to work and many struggled to make ends meet and feed their families. A few generations before that, you pretty much had to farm or hunt your food.
We're still conditioned to worry and feel stress, so when we no longer have to worry about a roof over our head or feeding ourselves and our families, our brains manufacture things to be stressed about.
Part of it, IMO.
Just a couple generations ago, folks had to work and many struggled to make ends meet and feed their families. A few generations before that, you pretty much had to farm or hunt your food.
We're still conditioned to worry and feel stress, so when we no longer have to worry about a roof over our head or feeding ourselves and our families, our brains manufacture things to be stressed about.
Part of it, IMO.
Posted on 2/28/18 at 12:49 am to nola000
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Native peoples the world throughout in throughout history have utilized the Bounty of nature without any addictions or social problems.
"I'll take Somalian warlords on khat for $500 Alex"
Posted on 2/28/18 at 12:51 am to Sofa King Crimson
There's alot to be said for that view you pointed out

Posted on 2/28/18 at 12:58 am to TH03
TV and video games has a lot to do with it. No way a 7 year old child should be desensitized to death and killing, but for most it is the norm. Yes some people are fricked to begin with, but the environment that these kids are raised in plays a massive role into how they turn out. Not to mention that most of these mass shooters were on some kind of powerful antidepressants or the like.
Posted on 2/28/18 at 5:55 am to PiscesTiger
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Oh shut up dick head. Look around...this look like a dawning of a new day to you?
No?
I mean, you've had Mao and Stalin just slaughtering their own people, serfs without the ability to read basically being slaves, a civil war that ripped our nation apart, multiple world wars, attempted genocides in Bosnia/Serbia, and just a multitude of horrendous things in our past.
Stop being a slave to emotion and actually look at the objective facts.
Posted on 2/28/18 at 6:24 am to TulaneFan
This.
Dan Carlin just came out with a new episode of the Hardcore History podcast called Painfotainment - worth a listen on the topic about man’s obsession with the pain and suffering of others.
Dan Carlin just came out with a new episode of the Hardcore History podcast called Painfotainment - worth a listen on the topic about man’s obsession with the pain and suffering of others.
Posted on 2/28/18 at 6:36 am to PiscesTiger
quote:
What has made society become so selfishly-violent ala Columbine?
quote:Nope
Video games?
quote:Nope
Facebook?
quote:Nope
Twitter?
quote:Not Really but it fuels discontent
24 hour cable news?
quote:Don't really think so but people today no longer discuss differences
Opposition to a political party?
quote:The lack of qualified mental health in general is getting warm
Easy access to ADHD meds and even easier to skip day(s) on depression meds?
quote:Bingo
Parental involvement or lack thereof?
Posted on 2/28/18 at 7:05 am to PiscesTiger
You're a fool if you don't believe the Video game culture hasn't influenced.
No consequences.
No consequences.
Posted on 2/28/18 at 7:07 am to kingbob
Yeah I think you are you right and that's a large factor no one talks about (I definitely would have never thought of it). I think that pattern is a natural part of human development that has been completely stripped away from the boys in this country. Ironically, a policy designed to prevent bullying has probably compounded the problem.
Posted on 2/28/18 at 7:27 am to PiscesTiger
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24 hour cable news?
This is you primary reason we think things are so much worse now. In reality, they are generally better now than they have been in a long time.

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