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re: What has made society become so selfishly-violent ala Columbine?

Posted on 2/27/18 at 9:53 pm to
Posted by Tiger Vision
Mandeville
Member since Jan 2005
3935 posts
Posted on 2/27/18 at 9:53 pm to
Society needs more Jesus. We are 4 pages in a nobody has mentioned it. There is your problem.

How many of these school shootings have happened in Cristian schools?
This post was edited on 2/27/18 at 9:57 pm
Posted by Big_Slim
Mogadishu
Member since Apr 2016
3979 posts
Posted on 2/27/18 at 9:56 pm to
More people in close quarters. Statistically inevitable.
Posted by Big_Slim
Mogadishu
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 2/27/18 at 9:58 pm to
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Zero tolerance policies for fighting in schools


This is interesting
Posted by GeorgePaton
God's Country
Member since May 2017
5979 posts
Posted on 2/27/18 at 10:05 pm to
Culture of death. Steady diet of violence on television and in the movies. That coupled with the collapse of the traditional family. Divorced parent have to go to work to support his/her kids, resulting in kids lacking parental supervision. Rejection of organized religion, resulting in loss of a sense of community. Add to the mix constant upheaval with familes moving across the country to chase after jobs. A lot of things contributed to the violent culture we're now witnessing. I fear it will only get worse.

I hope I'm wrong. But these massacres like Columbine, Sandy Hook and Stoneman Douglas HS are a bad omen. In all these three massacres the shooters were deeply troubled and tormented young men. Two of the killers (Sandy Hook and the Florida HS) were products of broken families.

Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
71200 posts
Posted on 2/27/18 at 10:14 pm to
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Zero tolerance policies for fighting in schools


This is interesting


See, I was a kid when these policies were first put into place. Before, when 2 boys had a disagreement, they would fight each other. The fight would typically resolve the conflict and the fact that they were each willing to stand up for themselves caused each to earn the other's respect and they would be friends after that.

Basically, kids were bullied until they fought back, and then the bully and the bullied kid would become friends.

Once the zero tolerance policy came about, kids didn't get their aggression out that way. The bullies still did their thing, but the responsible kids wouldn't fight back because they would get suspended or even expelled if they did. Because they never fight back, the bullying never stops and just grows and grows and grows. With social media, that crap even follows them home.

Kids who really didn't care, would simply start fights with these intelligent wimps who cared about their grades in a kamakaze to get them both suspended because they knew it would hurt the other kid more than them.

By punishing the aggressor and the defender the same, it made the aggressors a million times more potent and caused the whole "bullying crisis" to blossom in the 2000's.

Basically, those poor picked on kids never fight back until they finally snap, get a gun, and start murdering people. They never get to vent out their rage or solve their problems physically until they boil over in a much more destructive manner.

It's the same problem you see in the gun control debate. The only people who follow the rules are the responsible people. The ones who wish to do harm don't follow the rules. By essentially disarming the responsible kids and preventing them from defending themselves, you turn them into perpetual victims of abuse.
This post was edited on 2/27/18 at 10:20 pm
Posted by Kennerkarl
Kenner
Member since Jan 2014
711 posts
Posted on 2/27/18 at 10:28 pm to
A few people in this thread have said the world is more peaceful now than ever.

What is this definitive statement based on?

Number of active wars?
Per capita homicides?
Posted by Pelican fan99
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Jun 2013
39647 posts
Posted on 2/27/18 at 10:32 pm to
The destruction of the 2 parent Christian household
Posted by reddy tiger
Mandeville
Member since Aug 2012
1602 posts
Posted on 2/27/18 at 10:33 pm to
We're talking monkeys.
Posted by RobDione
Pensacola Beach
Member since Nov 2007
765 posts
Posted on 2/27/18 at 10:39 pm to
The end of youth created Rock N Roll :-))
Posted by Mike da Tigah
Bravo Romeo Lima Alpha
Member since Feb 2005
61883 posts
Posted on 2/27/18 at 10:46 pm to
Zombie meds.
Posted by Sofa King Crimson
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2008
4135 posts
Posted on 2/27/18 at 10:47 pm to
society is struggling to find its way in a time where there is no longer any struggle to survive. Life is far too easy and this has all happened very quickly.

Just a couple generations ago, folks had to work and many struggled to make ends meet and feed their families. A few generations before that, you pretty much had to farm or hunt your food.

We're still conditioned to worry and feel stress, so when we no longer have to worry about a roof over our head or feeding ourselves and our families, our brains manufacture things to be stressed about.

Part of it, IMO.

Posted by AUTimbo
Member since Sep 2011
3374 posts
Posted on 2/28/18 at 12:49 am to
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Native peoples the world throughout in throughout history have utilized the Bounty of nature without any addictions or social problems.



"I'll take Somalian warlords on khat for $500 Alex"

Posted by AUTimbo
Member since Sep 2011
3374 posts
Posted on 2/28/18 at 12:51 am to
There's alot to be said for that view you pointed out

Posted by DawgGONIT
Member since May 2015
2961 posts
Posted on 2/28/18 at 12:58 am to
TV and video games has a lot to do with it. No way a 7 year old child should be desensitized to death and killing, but for most it is the norm. Yes some people are fricked to begin with, but the environment that these kids are raised in plays a massive role into how they turn out. Not to mention that most of these mass shooters were on some kind of powerful antidepressants or the like.
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
76373 posts
Posted on 2/28/18 at 5:55 am to
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Oh shut up dick head. Look around...this look like a dawning of a new day to you?


No?

I mean, you've had Mao and Stalin just slaughtering their own people, serfs without the ability to read basically being slaves, a civil war that ripped our nation apart, multiple world wars, attempted genocides in Bosnia/Serbia, and just a multitude of horrendous things in our past.

Stop being a slave to emotion and actually look at the objective facts.
Posted by JacketFan77
Tiger, GA
Member since Nov 2012
2567 posts
Posted on 2/28/18 at 6:24 am to
This.

Dan Carlin just came out with a new episode of the Hardcore History podcast called Painfotainment - worth a listen on the topic about man’s obsession with the pain and suffering of others.
Posted by Snipe
Member since Nov 2015
17183 posts
Posted on 2/28/18 at 6:36 am to
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What has made society become so selfishly-violent ala Columbine?


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Video games?
Nope

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Facebook?
Nope

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Twitter?
Nope

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24 hour cable news?
Not Really but it fuels discontent

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Opposition to a political party?
Don't really think so but people today no longer discuss differences

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Easy access to ADHD meds and even easier to skip day(s) on depression meds?
The lack of qualified mental health in general is getting warm

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Parental involvement or lack thereof?
Bingo
Posted by p&g
Dixie
Member since Jun 2005
12995 posts
Posted on 2/28/18 at 7:05 am to
You're a fool if you don't believe the Video game culture hasn't influenced.

No consequences.
Posted by Big_Slim
Mogadishu
Member since Apr 2016
3979 posts
Posted on 2/28/18 at 7:07 am to
Yeah I think you are you right and that's a large factor no one talks about (I definitely would have never thought of it). I think that pattern is a natural part of human development that has been completely stripped away from the boys in this country. Ironically, a policy designed to prevent bullying has probably compounded the problem.
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
48668 posts
Posted on 2/28/18 at 7:27 am to
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24 hour cable news?



This is you primary reason we think things are so much worse now. In reality, they are generally better now than they have been in a long time.



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