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re: What exactly is Church of the Highlands?

Posted on 12/7/19 at 8:44 am to
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 12/7/19 at 8:44 am to
He is spot on. I’ve been going since February due to circumstances outside of my control. I got the same impression at the very first service.

Posted by AlbertMeansWell
Member since Sep 2013
5565 posts
Posted on 12/7/19 at 8:45 am to
One of the pastor's sons is gay and they sent him to some gay conversion place.
Posted by rooster108bm
Member since Nov 2010
3235 posts
Posted on 12/7/19 at 8:45 am to
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You’ll never hear them talk about wives submitting to husbands


Because that would be one sided as husbands are supposed to also submit to their wives.

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divorce is a direct violation of God’s covenant


All sin is a violation of God's covenant. Divorce isn't special.


You think that's a rebuttal, but actually you're reinforcing what SD posted. They ain't preaching none of what you posted either.
Posted by Roll Tide Ravens
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2015
51714 posts
Posted on 12/7/19 at 8:48 am to
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It’s incredibly cult-like. I’d type up all the reasons but you wouldn’t listen.



Go for it. I just don’t personally feel, in my experience attending some services there, that it is cult like.

See, the first person I ever heard say it was cult like was a pastor of a church that was dwindling and couldn’t grow his church at all. He said it because he felt threatened by Church of the Highlands for some reason. So that makes me take the cult claims with a big grain of salt, but feel free to explain your views.
This post was edited on 12/7/19 at 8:49 am
Posted by SD Tider
San Diego
Member since May 2019
2500 posts
Posted on 12/7/19 at 8:58 am to
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quote: You’ll never hear them talk about wives submitting to husbands Because that would be one sided as husbands are supposed to also submit to their wives. quote: divorce is a direct violation of God’s covenant All sin is a violation of God's covenant. Divorce isn't special.


No it doesn’t. It tells wives to submit to their husbands as he is the head of the family just as Christ is the head of the church. Husbands are to love, respect, and protect their wives.

B. This is true, however a divorce is actively living in sin without repentance.
Posted by Spasweezy
Unfortunately, Louisiana
Member since Jan 2014
7253 posts
Posted on 12/7/19 at 9:03 am to
Sounds culty. Rizzo would approve.
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
60933 posts
Posted on 12/7/19 at 9:17 am to
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but the pastor is good and preaches from the Bible.


Not that I know or disagree with you, but that statement is meaningless. It can mean a thousand different things.
This post was edited on 12/7/19 at 9:17 am
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
60933 posts
Posted on 12/7/19 at 9:18 am to
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One of the pastor's sons is gay and they sent him to some gay conversion place.


If he's gay why did try converting him to be gayer? to make him super gay? Just make him watch The Crown or This is Us
This post was edited on 12/7/19 at 9:21 am
Posted by Tri City Tigers
Member since Oct 2018
2343 posts
Posted on 12/7/19 at 9:22 am to
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What exactly is Church of the Highlands?


It's the Applebee's of churches. Just a bunch of chains where you can get fed the same bland food at every location. They hired a guy from Louisiana on their staff recently that had just cheated on his wife about a year earlier.
This post was edited on 12/7/19 at 9:31 am
Posted by Chuck Barris
Member since Apr 2013
3206 posts
Posted on 12/7/19 at 9:25 am to
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What does Highlands have to do with anything biblical?

There's an area of Birmingham, which is in the general area where the church began, known as "the Highlands." You might be familiar with the award-winning Highlands Bar and Grill restaurant if you're a foodie.
Posted by Chuck Barris
Member since Apr 2013
3206 posts
Posted on 12/7/19 at 9:28 am to
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You’ll never hear them talk about wives submitting to husbands, [b]or why God commanded the Israelites to slay their enemies wives and children[b/]
Ok, I'll bite:

Why did God command the Israelites to commit genocide, including the wholesale slaughter of defenseless children, in the OT?
Posted by Tri City Tigers
Member since Oct 2018
2343 posts
Posted on 12/7/19 at 9:31 am to
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There's an area of Birmingham, which is in the general area where the church began, known as "the Highlands." You might be familiar with the award-winning Highlands Bar and Grill restaurant if you're a foodie.



I call it Church of the High.
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
60933 posts
Posted on 12/7/19 at 9:34 am to
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Why did God command the Israelites to commit genocide, including the wholesale slaughter of defenseless children, in the OT?


The idea was called the "ban" and it was meant to devote an area wholly to destruction unto God.

Keep in mind the people they slaughtered practiced child sacrifice and some very twisted things on other innocent people. And that thought/influence had to be totally eradicated and rooted out.

The issue modern readers have is we see things more individually and not corporately and generationally.

The ancient Israelites were purifying the land so that they corporately and generationally would live Holy unto God.

The second answer to that is more philosophical- God always meets people where there are historically and sanctifies them as a people overtime slowly upping the standard of righteousness in action.

To the point where, thousands of years later, God came down in human form in Jesus speaking their language saying "turn the other cheek"

He guides us and molds us corporately overtime to be better
This post was edited on 12/7/19 at 9:38 am
Posted by Bronson2017
Birmingham
Member since Feb 2019
2201 posts
Posted on 12/7/19 at 9:53 am to
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Factor in the “college of the highlands” where it cost 6k a term out of pocket just for tuition for the chance to earn a “certificate” and the pastor is the chancellor


This is the sketchy part to me. Why would you pay for these classes and it’s not even going to make you a preacher?
Posted by Chuck Barris
Member since Apr 2013
3206 posts
Posted on 12/7/19 at 10:04 am to
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Keep in mind the people they slaughtered practiced child sacrifice and some very twisted things on other innocent people. And that thought/influence had to be totally eradicated and rooted out.

God would not be incapable of protecting the Israelites from the influence of those religions and customs in another way if He had chosen to do so. This presents a false choice with "utterly abandon the worship of God" and "kill every man, woman, and child in this other ethnic group" as the binary options. Anyone who knows the histories of the kingdoms of Judah and Israel knows that the descendants of the Israelites were ultimately corrupted by the influence of their neighbors' religions anyway.

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The issue modern readers have is we see things more individually and not corporately and generationally.
This isn't entirely a product of secular or even post-Enlightenment thinking. Hasn't the New Testament taught us to view things this way? Matthew chapter 10 teaches that the gospel's impact will vary from individual to individual, even splitting households. John, Acts and Ephesians also indicate that salvation is received on an individual basis.

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The ancient Israelites were purifying the land so that they corporately and generationally would live Holy unto God.

I have to say, if I was a five year old Canaanite watching my family die in an ethnic cleansing before I was murdered myself, this wouldn't be particularly comforting.
Posted by klrstix
Shreveport, LA
Member since Oct 2006
3573 posts
Posted on 12/7/19 at 10:19 am to
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the pastor is a huge LSU fan.


Maybe someone can chime in on this but I believe the Pastor is from Baton Rouge.

Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
122172 posts
Posted on 12/7/19 at 10:20 am to
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Biblical education/ministry college known as Highlands College.


Do they have a football team?
Posted by saint tiger225
San Diego
Member since Jan 2011
49080 posts
Posted on 12/7/19 at 10:27 am to
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There’s nothing cult like about it outside of just being big.
Don't even try. People on this site are generally stupid, but even more so when it comes to religion/churches. And they hate any church that could possibly be considered big. They swear no good can come out of them.
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
60933 posts
Posted on 12/7/19 at 12:46 pm to
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Hasn't the New Testament taught us to view things this way? Matthew chapter 10 teaches that the gospel's impact will vary from individual to individual, even splitting households. John, Acts and Ephesians also indicate that salvation is received on an individual basis.


Not really. "Households" in Matthew 10 refer to family households which were similar to ancient insulas - where families built onto families on and on under a patriarch forming a clan. One person rarely lived by themselves or had individuality unless they had shamed the family or village.

And almost every "you" in books you referenced are PLURAL meaning they are aimed at community

We, as modern westerners, truly suck at reading scripture in its ancient eastern context.

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I have to say, if I was a five year old Canaanite watching my family die in an ethnic cleansing before I was murdered myself, this wouldn't be particularly comforting.


You asked the question, apparently as a low hanging fruit gotcha question. Doesnt bother me. All I can see is good thing God was merciful enough not to make you be born an ancient 5 year old canaanite then
This post was edited on 12/7/19 at 12:50 pm
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 12/7/19 at 12:47 pm to
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Maybe someone can chime in on this but I believe the Pastor is from Baton Rouge.



He is and he’s a pretty cool guy.
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