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re: What does "Consent" look like going forward in the U.S.?

Posted on 6/21/26 at 10:49 am to
Posted by Underteaux
Member since Feb 2024
1143 posts
Posted on 6/21/26 at 10:49 am to
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As a man, it's like changing the rules of the game at halftime but not telling either side what the new rules are
The rules have never changed. Just don’t be a piece of shite.

Hope the cops are flagging your IP tbh
Posted by wallowinit
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2006
17928 posts
Posted on 6/21/26 at 10:50 am to
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Is this going to be another factor that causes men to just "check out" and go to the AI girlfriend route instead of having dates and relationships with actual women?

It already is with me. it scares the shite out of me and I don’t know what to do about it.

I don’t see it getting resolved either because it is a Legal power women have over men.
The lawyers will never let go of that one. It is quite lucrative to them.
Posted by TheMagicMan
Member since May 2026
105 posts
Posted on 6/21/26 at 10:54 am to
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Hope the cops are flagging your IP tbh


Flagging my IP for what? Asking a genuine question? Heck I haven't even had sex in almost 3 years. And honestly, with what dating has become, my peace if too nice to give up. But please tell me, what law am I breaking?

My friend is an idiot for being in his late 30s and still doing casual sex as far as I'm concerned. But I still think he's being railroaded here.

But yes cops, come to my house and tell me the horrible things I've done for posting this topic.
This post was edited on 6/21/26 at 10:56 am
Posted by Dadren
Jawja
Member since Dec 2023
3322 posts
Posted on 6/21/26 at 10:57 am to
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Outside of eliminating hook-up culture, and even sex before marriage, this type of issue is going to keep coming up and I really don't have an answer either. And of course you eliminate those two things, you eliminate a lot of eventual relationships and cause even more population collapse long term.


Dude.

The population was growing prior to hookup culture. It has not-so-coincidentally been shrinking since it hookup culture became a thing. And even if that wasn’t the case, “hookup babies” probably aren’t a great solution for birth rates.

It seems like you’re wanting everyone to have their cake and eat it too. You’re trying to find a way to pretend that “intimate act with physical and emotional consequences” is separate from “sex” and just keep the “sex”. That’s not possible.

The answer is not to “eliminate hookup culture”. The answer is for you personally to opt out of it and encourage everyone you care about to do the same, because it’s a shite show and there’s no way to make it not a shite show.
Posted by TheMagicMan
Member since May 2026
105 posts
Posted on 6/21/26 at 10:58 am to
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It already is with me. it scares the shite out of me and I don’t know what to do about it.

I don’t see it getting resolved either because it is a Legal power women have over men.
The lawyers will never let go of that one. It is quite lucrative to them.


It is with me as well. I've had several not so great breakups and at this point in my life I'm just over it. After what's happening to my friend, I'm not sure I care if I ever have sex again.

I want a relationship. I want to have a wife. But it sure doesn't seem like it's worth the risk anymore.

Part of me debates if I'll just starting pay for sex whenever I really find that I need it. At least it's an honest transaction.
Posted by TheMagicMan
Member since May 2026
105 posts
Posted on 6/21/26 at 11:00 am to
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The answer is not to “eliminate hookup culture”. The answer is for you personally to opt out of it and encourage everyone you care about to do the same, because it’s a shite show and there’s no way to make it not a shite show.


Oh no for me I've already opted out of hookup culture. I honestly was never that much into hookup culture, but I've definitely opted out now. And what's happening to my friend is a good reinforcement into why I'm done with hookup culture.
Posted by TheMagicMan
Member since May 2026
105 posts
Posted on 6/21/26 at 11:03 am to
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Reminds me of something that happened during my Army days. Had two guys I worked with, one had a girlfriend and the other was single. The guy and his girlfriend had a threesome with a girl and then eventually she wanted one with a guy and he actually agreed. He picked the other guy we worked with.

Went over to his barracks after work, had a few beers and single guy starts kissing the girl. She's into it. Starts touching her chest, all good. Sticks his hand down her pants and she tells him to stop so he does. She runs out the room crying, calling the MPs saying she was raped.

The boyfriend was on the single guy's side and was clueless on why she even ran out the room .

Single guy got a BCD and confinement for a few months. She tried talking to me at a club afterwards. Nope, ain't happening


This is what I'm talking about here. Nothing the guy in your scenario did was rape in any way. Yet all the woman has to do is scream rape and the guy is finished. I'm guessing the guy either eventually was discharged, or in the very least, his career in the military was significantly diminished.

And that's the problem now. Any woman claims rape and it's guilty until proven innocent. And even if proven innocent, you'll have the type who will simply say "well the patriarchy let's another man get away with rape" or "I'm sure he still did something". It's an incredible power women have, knowing they can ruin a man in a second. A sexual assault/rape charge is something you never get clear of. Good for you for not taking the woman's bait. I'm sure she would've loved to have done a rape charge against you and gotten money or something out of it.
Posted by shutterspeed
MS Gulf Coast
Member since May 2007
73084 posts
Posted on 6/21/26 at 11:18 am to
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If she takes her clothes off, bends over and slaps her arse and says it’s post time. That’s consent.


What if she just intended to twerk on you?

Posted by Underteaux
Member since Feb 2024
1143 posts
Posted on 6/21/26 at 11:23 am to
This might be the saddest thread I’ve ever read on here.
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
103264 posts
Posted on 6/21/26 at 11:24 am to
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Don’t stick your dick in crazy.


I’m not attracted to men though so I have no choice
Posted by Everyday Is Saturday
Member since Dec 2025
2041 posts
Posted on 6/21/26 at 11:28 am to
Now objectively tell her side of the story.

OT jury awaits for proper verdict.

Posted by TigerFanatic99
South Bend, Indiana
Member since Jan 2007
36290 posts
Posted on 6/21/26 at 11:31 am to
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One of the big changes is especially the way that women have said "consent can be removed at any time". I don't disagree with that, I think both sides have the right to revoke consent at any time, but it creates some problems.


Consent can be revoked at any time, up until the end of the act.

You can't revoke concent for something in the past. That is called "regret", and regret is not something someone else can be held accountable for.
Posted by TheMagicMan
Member since May 2026
105 posts
Posted on 6/21/26 at 11:49 am to
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Consent can be revoked at any time, up until the end of the act.

You can't revoke concent for something in the past. That is called "regret", and regret is not something someone else can be held accountable for.


But again, say she revokes consent right in the middle of sex and it take 3 - 5 seconds for you to get out of her and away from her. Did you not commit rape for those 3 - 5 seconds?
Posted by TheMagicMan
Member since May 2026
105 posts
Posted on 6/21/26 at 11:53 am to
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This might be the saddest thread I’ve ever read on here.


I'm still waiting on what law I supposedly "broke" that could justify cops flagging my IP and tracking me down. Come on, you can elaborate.
This post was edited on 6/21/26 at 11:54 am
Posted by wallowinit
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2006
17928 posts
Posted on 6/21/26 at 11:57 am to
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Hope the cops are flagging your IP tbh

WTF!? YOU are the piece of shite here, bud. TBH.
Posted by wallowinit
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2006
17928 posts
Posted on 6/21/26 at 12:03 pm to
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But it sure doesn't seem like it's worth the risk anymore. Part of me debates if I'll just starting pay for sex whenever I really find that I need it. At least it's an honest transaction.

Same here. It’s a dilemma.
I’ve never had to pay a lawyer for personal reasons and I sure don’t wanna start now.
Posted by Dadren
Jawja
Member since Dec 2023
3322 posts
Posted on 6/21/26 at 12:04 pm to
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But again, say she revokes consent right in the middle of sex and it take 3 - 5 seconds for you to get out of her and away from her. Did you not commit rape for those 3 - 5 seconds?

If we’re ignoring the absurdity of this scenario and the very obvious way to not end up in this situation, I’d think that if you cease the sex act and begin the process of ending it, you haven’t committed rape.

And unless you’re disabled or weigh 600 lbs, that’s probably something that could be done faster than 5 seconds.
Posted by shutterspeed
MS Gulf Coast
Member since May 2007
73084 posts
Posted on 6/21/26 at 12:04 pm to
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But again, say she revokes consent right in the middle of sex and it take 3 - 5 seconds for you to get out of her and away from her.


Those extra pumps ain't free, baw.
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
75330 posts
Posted on 6/21/26 at 12:06 pm to
depends on the color of your skin
Posted by TheMagicMan
Member since May 2026
105 posts
Posted on 6/21/26 at 12:18 pm to
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If we’re ignoring the absurdity of this scenario and the very obvious way to not end up in this situation, I’d think that if you cease the sex act and begin the process of ending it, you haven’t committed rape.

And unless you’re disabled or weigh 600 lbs, that’s probably something that could be done faster than 5 seconds.


I mean yes it's an absurd scenario, but that's the point. That I could actually see a woman trying to claim rape in this type of scenario.

I mean yes, it wouldn't take more than a second to cease the sex act but then you still have to get off her and get out of the bed. Especially if it's a big bed, stopping the sex act, getting off her and getting out of the bed could easily take 4 - 5 seconds.

In our current justice system I could see the woman claiming this was rape. Obviously it's absurd and should be thrown out of any court room, but the fact none of us could say with 100% certainty it would be thrown out alone shows how bad it's gotten.
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