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re: What do you do when grounding doesn't work?

Posted on 10/9/23 at 12:21 pm to
Posted by Murtown
OT Ballerville
Member since Sep 2014
1626 posts
Posted on 10/9/23 at 12:21 pm to
I've had clients send problem kids to the Youth Challenge Program. I have never heard any parents say anything bad about it. It seems to work. I think they offer one program that lasts a long time and the kids get their GED, and another one that allows them to maintain their high school course load and return to school at some point.

I know there is one in Carville near Baton Rouge that begins a new program on October 15th so it probably doesn't give you much time.

Here is the link to their website.

www.langycp.com

At some point you have to worry about liability for yourself as well until they turn 18. You have to do what is in the best interest of your family. You can also emancipate to protect yourself should you so decide.



This post was edited on 10/9/23 at 12:22 pm
Posted by Bayou Warrior 64
Member since Feb 2021
331 posts
Posted on 10/9/23 at 12:22 pm to
In all seriousness, take him to get tested for drug use. Rule that out up front so that you know what you are dealing with.

Look closely at his friends, the places he hangs out, etc. Try to determine if this is a kid being a typical teenager or if he is out of control (this is assuming you have been a relatively active parent with no pre-existing issues with him prior to these recent issues).

Hang in there. You might need to seek counseling. The fight has only begun.
This post was edited on 10/9/23 at 12:27 pm
Posted by SpidermanTUba
my house
Member since May 2004
36129 posts
Posted on 10/9/23 at 12:26 pm to
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What have you all tried that was fair and effective?


Mines 11 so dunno for sure, when he didn't behave well as a toddler though we never used timeout. Instead I would just take his favorite toy and put it in timeout where he couldn't get to it. So maybe take something the kid likes? Video games perhaps ?
Posted by terd ferguson
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Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 10/9/23 at 1:04 pm to
Boxing gloves, back yard, now.
Posted by NoSaint
Member since Jun 2011
11363 posts
Posted on 10/9/23 at 1:15 pm to
quote:

have a 15 year old son who just got off of a 6 week grounding for stealing our car, egging houses, ruining the paint job on his brother's car. Two weeks after last day of grounding, he's busted for hosting a party in our absence and plowing through significant amounts of alcohol.


I’d start with not leaving the kid that did all of the above alone so quickly
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
114236 posts
Posted on 10/9/23 at 1:18 pm to
He isn't too old to bust his arse. One time my brother was getting in trouble when he was a teenager and I saw my dad grab his by the neck and pretty much tell him "I don't know what's going on with you lately, but if this shite continues I will beat the shite out of you".

And I think he made him find work.. I want to say he was going to start working at 16... So he must have been the same age as your son and I remember my dad found him a job cleaning up shite (not literal shite, but trash around a work site or something). Maybe take that route.
Posted by partsman103
Member since Sep 2008
8145 posts
Posted on 10/9/23 at 1:23 pm to
quote:

What have you all tried that was fair and effective?


Had an older sister who went rogue during her teen years. Grounding didn't work because she would still sneak out.

So my parents placed her in the D-Home for 4 consecutive weekends. On Friday evenings they checked her in and picked her up on Sunday evenings. That literally woke her arse up about actions & consequences.

My parents constantly told us (as we were growing up) we had complete control over our punishments. All we had to do was follow/respect the rules of the house. If we didn't, we elected to be punished.
Posted by mcpotiger
Missouri
Member since Mar 2005
6970 posts
Posted on 10/9/23 at 1:26 pm to
Frick that. Hate it for the girl but you first need to yank any Homecoming fun! He needs some serious consequences.
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
114236 posts
Posted on 10/9/23 at 1:29 pm to
quote:

Mines 11 so dunno for sure, when he didn't behave well as a toddler though we never used timeout. Instead I would just take his favorite toy and put it in timeout where he couldn't get to it. So maybe take something the kid likes? Video games perhaps ?


WTF?
Posted by yellowfin
Coastal Bar
Member since May 2006
97819 posts
Posted on 10/9/23 at 1:30 pm to
quote:

have a 15 year old son who just got off of a 6 week grounding for stealing our car, egging houses, ruining the paint job on his brother's car. Two weeks after last day of grounding, he's busted for hosting a party in our absence and plowing through significant amounts of alcohol. Clearly grounding isn't working. This weekend is homecoming and my first instinct is to yank it away, but I don't want to punish the poor girl who has the dress, has the shoes, and is looking forward to the dance.


I’d go with adoption
Posted by Gaston
Dirty Coast
Member since Aug 2008
39195 posts
Posted on 10/9/23 at 1:35 pm to
I have a 17 yr old and honestly, they are so complex by now I have no idea what to say. I think it sounds worse than it is. Talk to him about his goals and where he wants to go and what he wants to study in college. Tell him you’ll sacrifice to help him make his dreams come true. Treat him like a young man that you are concerned about. You can only really hope at this point, the cake is already baked.
Posted by LSUfan4444
Member since Mar 2004
54282 posts
Posted on 10/9/23 at 1:38 pm to
I'm honestly not sure that grounding or punishments (aka, no homecoming) is going to "work". It kind of feels like if it was going to work it would have by now and a different approach might be what you're looking for.

Allowing homecoming doesnt make you "soft" but it would show that you're willing to compromise and work with him with the intent of working FOR him.

Maybe make the offer to allow homecoming with the commitment from him he is willing to try a new approach to things moving forward.

Set clear directives with clear measurable expectations and rather than just punishing when things go wrong, he can earn opportunities when things go right. Ultimately, he is in control of what he can and can't do by doing the right hings and achieving those clear, measurable tasks that you guys have decided on.

I think the best approach to parenting is not just cause and effect but rather a continual presence in all things. Grades, behavior, social circles, attitude, work ethic, humility, etc etc etc
This post was edited on 10/9/23 at 1:59 pm
Posted by charminultra
Member since Jan 2020
2595 posts
Posted on 10/9/23 at 1:47 pm to
FWIW - I got sent to the hospital at 15 for drinking an entire bottle of taaka at 105 lbs. I passed out in my own vomit. everyone knew me as the "2 beer queer".

I was grounded damn near a year. No phone. no Xbox. no friends on the weekends. only baseball practice. I would look forward to baseball everyday, and once practice ended i'd usually just go watch tv with the family.

what really got me the most was the fact I could never do anything with friends on the weekends.

I would say he's probably just going through that puberty phase when boys turn into shitheads. as long as he's still happy I think this will end once he's older.
Posted by ugastreaker
South Ga
Member since Jun 2015
4106 posts
Posted on 10/9/23 at 1:51 pm to
quote:

Set clear directives with clear measurable expectations and rather than just punishing when things go wrong, he can earn opportunities when things go wrong. Ultimately, he is in control of what he can and can't do by doing the right hings and achieving those clear, measurable tasks that you guys have decided on.


To each their own, but at 15 things aren’t going wrong, HE IS making wrong/ bad decisions and there are consequences for those in life. In a few years, a wrong decision will carry harsher punishments. I believe it is best to correct the serious misbehavior and mindset now.
Posted by 14caratgoldjones
Uniontown, Al
Member since Aug 2009
1330 posts
Posted on 10/9/23 at 1:53 pm to
Military school is your best answer. He may hate you know, but love you later.

It’s worked for every challenging kid that I knew that was sent. Well, except for one that was a complete psychopath. He is now on trial for attempted murder. He has a drug and alcohol problem. Came from a great family. There was no getting through to this dude.
Posted by VADawg
Wherever
Member since Nov 2011
45254 posts
Posted on 10/9/23 at 1:57 pm to
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Take his phone and electronics


Also, remove his bedroom door.
Posted by Lush
Nola
Member since Jul 2023
503 posts
Posted on 10/9/23 at 1:57 pm to
If he isn't going to respect you, make him fear you. BEAT HIS arse.
Posted by SpidermanTUba
my house
Member since May 2004
36129 posts
Posted on 10/9/23 at 2:05 pm to
quote:

Also, remove his bedroom door.


I love this. Should only be used as a last resort though.
Posted by SpidermanTUba
my house
Member since May 2004
36129 posts
Posted on 10/9/23 at 2:06 pm to
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WTF?


Lemme guess. You are surprised that it's even possible to discipline a child without beating them.
This post was edited on 10/9/23 at 2:06 pm
Posted by sqerty
AP
Member since May 2022
5345 posts
Posted on 10/9/23 at 2:10 pm to
Drop 'em off in the parish prison parking lot for a few hours on a Monday morning
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