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re: What do you do when grounding doesn't work?

Posted on 10/9/23 at 9:28 am to
Posted by shutterspeed
MS Gulf Coast
Member since May 2007
63489 posts
Posted on 10/9/23 at 9:28 am to
Finna get knuckle checked by son.
Posted by Black n Gold
Member since Feb 2009
15409 posts
Posted on 10/9/23 at 9:29 am to
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Does he have any productive hobbies?


I make my boys retire to the garage and tell them to build or fix something. They come crawling with questions when they get humbled and realize how useless they are for boys hoping to develop into men.
This post was edited on 10/9/23 at 9:30 am
Posted by Upperdecker
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2014
30606 posts
Posted on 10/9/23 at 9:31 am to
Military school. Your kid is going to get into drugs, dropout of high school, and be a complete failure at minimum or more likely OD on drugs. Sorry for the graphic depiction, but I’ve seen too many cases of this exact circumstance and parents didn’t take harsh enough measures to instill discipline
Posted by Allthatfades
Mississippi
Member since Aug 2014
6766 posts
Posted on 10/9/23 at 9:32 am to
Sounds like you’ve already let it get way out of hand baw. Have to nip the little stuff in the bud when they are young.
Posted by AlumneyeJ93
Member since Apr 2022
651 posts
Posted on 10/9/23 at 9:34 am to
Have the brother and a couple friends rough him up.
Posted by El Tigre Grande
Bayou Self
Member since Jan 2006
2272 posts
Posted on 10/9/23 at 9:34 am to
thick black leather belt...
Posted by tigeralum06
Member since Oct 2007
2789 posts
Posted on 10/9/23 at 9:35 am to
Chaperone the homecoming dance. That will be a worse punishment then not letting him go.
Posted by CaptainsWafer
TD Platinum Member
Member since Feb 2006
58375 posts
Posted on 10/9/23 at 9:35 am to
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This weekend is homecoming and my first instinct is to yank it away, but I don't want to punish the poor girl who has the dress, has the shoes, and is looking forward to the dance.


I’d keep him home and work to pay the date back for everything she spent.

His actions have consequences that may or may not affect him only. He needs to learn that.
Posted by TigerBaitOohHaHa
Member since Jan 2023
500 posts
Posted on 10/9/23 at 9:36 am to
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Does he have any productive hobbies?


He actually is a pretty decent little athlete. HS baseball/travel ball. His behaviour is very confusing to me because he is up at 5:30 am every morning to work out before school at the gym, jogs there/home 6 days a week. Volunteers at the church every sunday (lingering punishment from the car theft) and has baseball every day after school sometimes until 7pm.

Another layer of insult on top of the stress of having a kid act out, is that spouse and I aren't on the same page, so some additional marital stress is a bonus.
Posted by CaptainsWafer
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Posted on 10/9/23 at 9:37 am to
What page is she on
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
26890 posts
Posted on 10/9/23 at 9:38 am to
Sounds like a cool kid. I would've partied with that dude when I was a 15.

I don't know the details of the transgressions, but on the face, none of it seems that crazy:

Stealing car: Is this just sneaking out the family car? I did that, and so did just about every friend I grew up with.

Egging houses: Guilty

Ruining paint job on brother's car: Need more details.

Hosted party with alcohol: Guilty as well, many times.

There is a difference between angry, disrespectful kids who ignore authority, and fun-loving kids who break the rules trying to have a good time.

Which is your kid?

Posted by Tshiz
Idaho
Member since Jul 2013
7598 posts
Posted on 10/9/23 at 9:38 am to
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You drop him off at dance and pick him up


Wrong answer. You go full throttle or continue to get walked on.

Youre the parent, not his friend.
Posted by cheobode
Member since Dec 2017
1172 posts
Posted on 10/9/23 at 9:39 am to
What's that military style place for kids here in Louisiana? Youth Challenge Program?
Posted by Cdawg
TigerFred's Living Room
Member since Sep 2003
59583 posts
Posted on 10/9/23 at 9:40 am to
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What have you all tried that was fair and effective?

You may have to look inward first and see if there's a pattern on your side that obviously isn't having an effect. For example, if you're constantly yelling at him or being confrontational, you may have to change your approach. Admit your errors in your approach because the goal is to get them to open up emotionally to you. The hardest thing for me is not to loose my cool and let my anger explode or to say, "Because I'm the dad, and I said so." Nobody likes to hear that. Do you?

The respect is going to have to flow both ways. You need to remember, a 15year old has all kinds on new hormones, changes, going on. They're just as confused as you. Express how you can relate to that behavior and the consequences you had or explain to them you never did that so you don't understand why they're doing that. Ask them why but in a caring tone. explain to them how their actions hurt you and the mother.

Instead of a grounding, go the other direction of taking him for an outing and do something he wants to do. see if he can open up to you. Is he trying to be cool with friends? peer pressure or is he masking some emotional or physical trauma that happened to him. You want the relationship over obedience. In the end, you want them to make good decisions over controlling their behavior.

The opening up doesn't happen overnight or with one good outing.
This post was edited on 10/9/23 at 9:43 am
Posted by LSUDad
Still on the move
Member since May 2004
58855 posts
Posted on 10/9/23 at 9:41 am to
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spouse and I aren't on the same page, so some additional marital stress is a bonus.


This is your problem.
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
84257 posts
Posted on 10/9/23 at 9:41 am to
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is that spouse and I aren't on the same page, so some additional marital stress is a bonus.


You have to fix this before anything. If yall are not presenting a consistent front, nothing you do matters.
This post was edited on 10/9/23 at 9:53 am
Posted by TigerBaitOohHaHa
Member since Jan 2023
500 posts
Posted on 10/9/23 at 9:42 am to
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What page is she on
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Well *he* (female poster here) doesn't think it should impact our lifestyle at all. I want to put all booze behind lock and key and reel in the daily drinking in front of kids. I think we need to put a moratorium on overnight trips without the kids (it was our 25th wedding anniversary, and we had a weekend trip) until our son has gained some maturity. Or at least arrange for a dumpy house sitter if we do leave. Our LSU Junior was home for break, but a 21 year old is apparently NOT an effective adult for supervision. Surprise.
Posted by SoggyBottomBaw
Live Free Or Die
Member since Nov 2022
454 posts
Posted on 10/9/23 at 9:42 am to
Better insulation...
Posted by SG_Geaux
Beautiful St George
Member since Aug 2004
78045 posts
Posted on 10/9/23 at 9:42 am to
No homecoming.

Make him explain to the girl why.
Posted by Bullfrog
Institutionalized but Unevaluated
Member since Jul 2010
56364 posts
Posted on 10/9/23 at 9:43 am to
Take the door to his room off until expected behavior standard are met. They hate the loss of privacy.
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