re: What do you consider middle class?

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Middle class is the middle quartile incomes. It's pretty straight forward.

The only reason the water is muddied is because a shite ton of this board was raised upper class and was told it was middle class, so their view is warped. People typically have no clue how many people are making it on far, far less than they are.

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It honestly depends on where you live. If you live in New Orleans proper, you're going to struggle with a family of 4 on 120k (because you're most likely going to have to send your kids to private school, and shell out 400k+ to live in a home/area that is "safe").

"The South" is too broad of a description. Most places in the South, you are good to go on 120k income, but there are a few places where it's not going to go as far.

I like the old English definition of classes. Working class is anyone who has to work in some capacity to survive - obviously, there are varying gradients. Middle class is someone who doesn't have to work/owns their own enterprise, or at least can pursue whatever they please. Upper class are those who can do whatever they want, as can their children and grandchildren.

Which probably puts 90-95% of the population as working class.

I mean, public services are expensive. Roads, civil workers, education, etc. No one does that for free.

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Amazon paid 1.2% versus 14% for average Americans.

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Now go research why Amazon paid that rate. And other companies who pay similar rates during certain periods of time. I'll even give you a hint: losses carried forward.

And you want corporate taxes to be low. Any corporate tax increase is simply passed on to the consumer.

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that means HALF the population has a household income sub-55k

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What percentage of the population lives in the projects or on a farm in rural nowhere?

Take a place like Cobb County around metro Atlanta. Plenty of wealthy households, but plenty of poorer areas as well. The median household income in Cobb County is almost $80k.

It is gross income.

What would be more interesting would be a chart of 25tu to 75th percentile by state.

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losses carried forward.

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that, insane R&D spending, and deducting stock options used as salary

Amazon does it right. they invest heavily in R&D and don't do stock buybacks with windfalls. they also weren't profitable until basically last year

I read your quote wrong

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that, insane R&D spending, and deducting stock options used as salary

Amazon does it right. they invest heavily in R&D and don't do stock buybacks with windfalls. they also weren't profitable until basically last year

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But all that doesn't make for a nice sound bite to push your CORPORATIONS R TEH DEBIL narrative.

"Does it right" is perspective. Depends on how you look at it. I doubt their employees feel the same. I sure as shite wouldn't want to work for Amazon.