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re: What do plant operators do? And how much do they really make?
Posted on 4/24/18 at 11:36 am to OweO
Posted on 4/24/18 at 11:36 am to OweO
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Knowing people who are operators, it varies depending on what plant you work at, but while it might not be that much work involved for the most part, they have to monitor pressure gages, etc.
I think each unit will have 3 operators working at once, its a rotation. One of them are there are backup and there really isn't much going on unless something happens.
From what I understand it isn't for everyone. Someone told me that they have seen guys go nuts because once you are in there for your shift you are locked in. And seen guys on night shifts worrying about their wives because they go out with their friends and then get word that she is messing around with another dude, etc.. But of course the job didn't create the problems..
You could become a safety supervisor, I think there is one on every shift. They are usually dorks, but that's all I really know..
Did you pick this up on Refined

Posted on 4/24/18 at 11:42 am to fjlee90
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Did you pick this up on Refined
Look at who you are replying to. The guy is a dunce.
Posted on 4/24/18 at 11:45 am to notiger1997
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As for getting rich, yes it's very possible. I have a family member who just retired from Exxon with over $2 million.
I wouldn't call that "rich"
Posted on 4/24/18 at 11:45 am to fightin tigers
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Look at who you are replying to. The guy is a dunce.
Oh I'm aware. I hope he enjoyed his attention for the day.
Posted on 4/24/18 at 11:59 am to MusclesofBrussels
Whatever. For a guy who wanted to just retire with a paid for house and be able to buy a bass boat it’s pretty good. In addition to that investment he has his wife’s investments and both of their social security.
Hell they could live in the interest alone
Hell they could live in the interest alone
This post was edited on 4/24/18 at 12:01 pm
Posted on 4/24/18 at 12:10 pm to notiger1997
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Whatever. For a guy who wanted to just retire with a paid for house and be able to buy a bass boat it’s pretty good. In addition to that investment he has his wife’s investments and both of their social security.
Hell they could live in the interest alone
The guy you speak of could pull more than the median income of the average US citizen and never touch the principle. Honestly, with even a fricked up investment portfolio he would be gaining more than the would be withdrawing. Especially since he is probably pulling enough social security to cover his necessities.
Saying he is "rich" is subjective, but I would retire right now if I had eliminated all of my debts and could pull that type of income.
Posted on 4/24/18 at 12:45 pm to fightin tigers
4% of $2,000,000 is $80,000. With a paid off house he can live very comfortably for the rest of his life.
Posted on 4/24/18 at 12:45 pm to LSUGRAD2008
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its not really that bad its basically working a 12 hour shift vs an 8.
That sounds terrible

Posted on 4/24/18 at 12:52 pm to jimbeam
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4% of $2,000,000 is $80,000. With a paid off house he can live very comfortably for the rest of his life.
that also assumes that you never remove any principal, which you are required to do afaik, so it would be north of 80K by a decent amount
Posted on 4/24/18 at 1:19 pm to notiger1997
I'm an operator and I wouldn't consider myself "rich". But all bullshite aside, I did pull in $131,000 last year (taxable income). I don't give a frick if somebody believes me or not. And I was 2nd to last (out of 6 on shift) in OT hours worked on my shift, so it's not like I had no life. I'm not saying that to brag either. It's really not a lot of money. But for those who don't believe that's how much most of us make, whatever. Knock yourself out.
When it comes to operators, I see more of others on this board making fun of operators than operators actually being douches. I'm not going to join in the generalization and make assumptions on why this happens.
All I know is I make a great living, able to provide very well for my family both through what I bring in salary wise and my insurance plan is relatively cheap (480 a month for a family of four with a great Blue Cross plan). You're going to be hard pressed to find anything comparable when it comes to insurance in the private sector. Also, our 401(k) is matched up 10 percent. Regular bonuses dependent on production. Every year I receive a raise, regardless of how the year was. Again, you might get that here and there at a few private industry jobs, but certainly not across the board. I worked the private sector for 15 years between 3 companies.
As for what we do, we operate the plant. Hence, the term "operator". The guys inside are monitoring every single facet of the process - pumps, columns, exchangers, tanks, all the instrumentation which provides temperature, pressure, flow, level, etc. The guys outside are the hands, eyes, ears, and sometimes nose (for possible leaks) for the inside guys. Everybody works as a team. I don't know who came up with this, but you cannot be stupid if you're an operator. It's a dangerous job, and usually the stupid ones are run off quicker than shite. You could frick up a lot of people's lives, the community's life, the entire ecosystem if you're not careful. Knowing this, a company is not going to hire a dumbass.
And for the guy saying working holidays is no big deal... if I happen to work a holiday - I get paid for 32 hours vs getting paid for 12. I would say that getting 20 extra hours is a little big of a "big deal", no? You learn to make adjustments. You celebrate an evening or day early/later. A lot of times you actually have holidays off. It's not like you're always working a holiday. It depends on how your shift falls. But to say it's not that big of a deal is bullshite. There's a reason not a lot of people call in sick on a holiday.
I know it's a wall of text, but I get so fricking sick of seeing the ignorant commentary when it comes to being an operator. There's a reason that when a slot opens up, there are usually hundreds of applicants fighting each other for that one spot.
And last but not least, most operators do not retire operators. A lot will move up the chain in their later years, to day jobs in supervisory roles.
When it comes to operators, I see more of others on this board making fun of operators than operators actually being douches. I'm not going to join in the generalization and make assumptions on why this happens.
All I know is I make a great living, able to provide very well for my family both through what I bring in salary wise and my insurance plan is relatively cheap (480 a month for a family of four with a great Blue Cross plan). You're going to be hard pressed to find anything comparable when it comes to insurance in the private sector. Also, our 401(k) is matched up 10 percent. Regular bonuses dependent on production. Every year I receive a raise, regardless of how the year was. Again, you might get that here and there at a few private industry jobs, but certainly not across the board. I worked the private sector for 15 years between 3 companies.
As for what we do, we operate the plant. Hence, the term "operator". The guys inside are monitoring every single facet of the process - pumps, columns, exchangers, tanks, all the instrumentation which provides temperature, pressure, flow, level, etc. The guys outside are the hands, eyes, ears, and sometimes nose (for possible leaks) for the inside guys. Everybody works as a team. I don't know who came up with this, but you cannot be stupid if you're an operator. It's a dangerous job, and usually the stupid ones are run off quicker than shite. You could frick up a lot of people's lives, the community's life, the entire ecosystem if you're not careful. Knowing this, a company is not going to hire a dumbass.
quote:SO fricking true! That's like seeing a kitchen worker in a hospital uniform and equating him/her to a doctor, just because they work at the hospital too.
All in all, I think most of the OT would see a turner boiler maker at the gas station with his truck nuts and stickers and lump him in with a plant operator.
And for the guy saying working holidays is no big deal... if I happen to work a holiday - I get paid for 32 hours vs getting paid for 12. I would say that getting 20 extra hours is a little big of a "big deal", no? You learn to make adjustments. You celebrate an evening or day early/later. A lot of times you actually have holidays off. It's not like you're always working a holiday. It depends on how your shift falls. But to say it's not that big of a deal is bullshite. There's a reason not a lot of people call in sick on a holiday.
I know it's a wall of text, but I get so fricking sick of seeing the ignorant commentary when it comes to being an operator. There's a reason that when a slot opens up, there are usually hundreds of applicants fighting each other for that one spot.
And last but not least, most operators do not retire operators. A lot will move up the chain in their later years, to day jobs in supervisory roles.
Posted on 4/24/18 at 1:31 pm to RealityTiger
The thing I love about overtime is every time my wife wants me to go to some bs piano recital for the kid I tell her it's a turnaround. He isn't even that good
Posted on 4/24/18 at 1:38 pm to RealityTiger
The assumption that operators are dumb cracks me up. When shite hits the fan you better know where when and how to do what needs to be done. I work about 300 hrs of overtime a year. Grossed 130k last year. Between the wife and I we broke 200k . Add in 10 percent 401k 8 percent in my pension and 250 bucks a month for insurance. I feel like we are doing ok.
Posted on 4/24/18 at 1:40 pm to RealityTiger
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know it's a wall of text, but I get so fricking sick of seeing the ignorant commentary when it comes to being an operator
I get sick of ignorant operators.
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There's a reason that when a slot opens up, there are usually hundreds of applicants fighting each other for that one spot.
Because there's a shite ton of people with little education in Louisiana.
Posted on 4/24/18 at 1:41 pm to Lookin4Par
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I know a couple of guys that work as operators but I’m not really sure what exactly it is that they do... these guys claim to make mid 100’s, one even as much as 170 & 175 the last two years.
Operators make 60-120k with normal overtime and picking up some shifts.
Maintenance Mechanics at Plants can make $175k but that's a hard gig to get(not quite River Boat Pilot but it's definitely similarly unfair).
An operator making $120+ is working alot more than he should(16 hour shifts often and volunteering for overtime during turnarounds and shite) and his homelife is compromised.
Posted on 4/24/18 at 1:43 pm to Relham10
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Operators shouldn't be dicking in the PLC
That's why I was asking. You never know sometimes, I've been around some shady clients

Posted on 4/24/18 at 1:43 pm to mikelbr
You don't volunteer for turnarounds as an operator. We don't work 16 hour shifts. If I have to stay it's 18 hours and I get double time for 18.
Posted on 4/24/18 at 1:44 pm to notiger1997
There's an ole baw from around here that just retired from Dow after 30 years..... he's bringing home $7,100 a month as a retired electrician. He's not even 55 yet.
Posted on 4/24/18 at 1:45 pm to dualed
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Over 100k easy with OT.
This was true 20 years ago in a plant where I worked. So probably $200k fairly easy now. Not a job I'd want, though. It's boring as hell 95% of the time and extremely stressful the other 5%.
Posted on 4/24/18 at 1:48 pm to Lookin4Par
I know a PHd in Econ that makes $120K, works 25 hours a week
Posted on 4/24/18 at 1:57 pm to RealityTiger
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And I was 2nd to last (out of 6 on shift) in OT hours worked on my shift, so it's not like I had no life.
How many overtime hours is that?
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And for the guy saying working holidays is no big deal... if I happen to work a holiday - I get paid for 32 hours vs getting paid for 12. I would say that getting 20 extra hours is a little big of a "big deal", no? You learn to make adjustments. You celebrate an evening or day early/later. A lot of times you actually have holidays off. It's not like you're always working a holiday. It depends on how your shift falls. But to say it's not that big of a deal is bullshite. There's a reason not a lot of people call in sick on a holiday.
frick all that.
I guess it would be good to be an operator if you don't have an education, but I value flexibility too much for all that non-sense.
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