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re: What did you learn from Katrina?
Posted on 6/22/20 at 10:46 am to notiger1997
Posted on 6/22/20 at 10:46 am to notiger1997
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A guy who I worked with stayed and lived right on the coast. He had to jump off the second floor of his house and swim to his boat that was tied to the house and almost didn’t survive
My neighbors did this with my boat.
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Posted on 6/22/20 at 10:50 am to Mud_Till_May
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What did you learn from Katrina?
When shite hits the fan, most "leaders" in political office are the opposite and often clueless.
Posted on 6/22/20 at 10:51 am to OleWar
"I learned that anyone who is on the public dole should not be allowed to live in precarious high risk locations."
I ponder which is right or wrong here. Should a society that has to foot the bill for the evacuation be able to mandate where the evacuated can live in the future? Through the lens of common sense, it's an easy choice for those who pay the bill.
I ponder which is right or wrong here. Should a society that has to foot the bill for the evacuation be able to mandate where the evacuated can live in the future? Through the lens of common sense, it's an easy choice for those who pay the bill.
Posted on 6/22/20 at 10:52 am to OWLFAN86
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Bush ?
Bush is undefeated, the OT has told me so, many times.
Posted on 6/22/20 at 10:53 am to Mud_Till_May
That its hot without AC
Posted on 6/22/20 at 10:59 am to Mud_Till_May
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What did you learn from Katrina?
I learned how very little the average American understands how the United States works regarding state sovereignty when blaming Bush while ignoring Blanco’s constitutional duty to either take charge, or relinquish power to the Feds. In addition, I learned how little our own Governor knew about her duties and that it was only the local police and national guard that could be used to enforce the law unless and until she relinquished it to the feds and put the city under martial law, which she eventually did.
I also learned the same lessons from Katrina that I did with 9-11, and the same that happened in the wake of WW1, and WWII, and that is that our federal government will always use national emergencies to increase the size and scope of government in our lives.
With Katrina you saw an increase in the involvement of FEMA, and you saw government finding excuses to confiscate privately owned guns, and so that showed me a lot about what the government will do in a national emergency, but not that it’s anything new, because it isn’t.
With 9-11, you had 2 wars, a tremendous increase in the DHS, the TSA, warrantless spying on American citizens, and much much more.
With WWII, you saw America transform into a world power as a result of agreements between Rosevelt, and Stalin in what Europe, and the world would look like post war.
With the Great Depression you saw Rosevelt begin to move America away from the gold standard, and finally done away with by Nixon in light of inflation in the 70’s Fairly ironic that it was inflation in the 70’s could cause the dollar to lose it’s gold standard, and in turn help cause our government to spend it so wildly that we are in such unprecedented national debt that we’ve never been in, but here’s to paper power.
WWI brought about the current federal tax system to pay off war debt, a big switch from tariffs funding the government, and a big increase in the power of the government in the lives of Americans.
The Civil War brought about perhaps the biggest changes however, from a President invading sovereign states who elected to secede and so sticking it to the will of the people to decide their own rulers for themselves, a fundamental principle of our own revolution from England. In addition, a reason by Lincoln to suspend habeas corpus, but if nothing more than a tremendous increase in the size and scope of the central government in the lives of all Americans post war, a major pivot from the United StateS to the United State.
Posted on 6/22/20 at 11:06 am to Mud_Till_May
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What did you learn from Katrina?
Your friendly neighborhood policeman will 100% follow orders to confiscate your weapons based on what some idiot mayor or police chief has decreed.
Posted on 6/22/20 at 11:32 am to Tigerlaff
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Your friendly neighborhood policeman will 100% follow orders to confiscate your weapons based on what some idiot mayor or police chief has decreed.
From Chris Rose's One Dead in Attic
Context: Rose was living in an uptown house with other Times Pic reporters covering the aftermath of the storm. They had .38's for protection in the home.
"The California National Guard came by and wanted an accounting of every weapon in the building...
...Then the California Highway Patrol -- the CHiPs!-- came and demanded we turn over our weapons. What are you going to do? We were certainly outnumbered and so we turned over the guns."
Above quote can be located in pps. 21-22 of the original edition
Posted on 6/22/20 at 11:34 am to Mud_Till_May
Katrina was THE event that taught me people really do not care that much about each other. Not everyone. Government especially.
Posted on 6/22/20 at 11:39 am to Spyhunter3
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people really do not care that much about each other
There were a shitton of amazing stories of people helping their friends, family, and strangers out during that time. I'm sorry you only saw the negative stuff.
Posted on 6/22/20 at 11:41 am to DeCat ODahouse
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"The California National Guard came by and wanted an accounting of every weapon in the building...
...Then the California Highway Patrol -- the CHiPs!
And everyone tried to blame the ATF for confiscating guns. It wasn't the ATF and it wasn't the feds. It was local law enforcement on the orders of the Mayor. Which blows my mind.
Posted on 6/22/20 at 11:46 am to Mud_Till_May
On a personal level, I learned my now ex BIL is a POS
Quick story is that my in-laws, which were his,too, had significant damage done to their home in coastal MS. He refused to help them in rebuilding fences, clearing trees, etc of which I ended up doing most all of it.
Further, (he lived in Alabama and house was safe from the storm, refused the request for relatives to stay temporarily at his home that needed a place to go
Meanwhile, I housed the in laws for over a month and a cousin of theirs for about 6 weeks.
My kids had to sleep in our room to make space
Meanwhile, shithead had TWO empty bedrooms in their home .
And one more : his co workers here in Alabama found out he had family affected by Katrina, so some of them put together a care package for him to give to his family in need.
Ultimately he never gave the family anything and kept all of the stuff, paper towels, bottled water, etc for himself
Quick story is that my in-laws, which were his,too, had significant damage done to their home in coastal MS. He refused to help them in rebuilding fences, clearing trees, etc of which I ended up doing most all of it.
Further, (he lived in Alabama and house was safe from the storm, refused the request for relatives to stay temporarily at his home that needed a place to go
Meanwhile, I housed the in laws for over a month and a cousin of theirs for about 6 weeks.
My kids had to sleep in our room to make space
Meanwhile, shithead had TWO empty bedrooms in their home .
And one more : his co workers here in Alabama found out he had family affected by Katrina, so some of them put together a care package for him to give to his family in need.
Ultimately he never gave the family anything and kept all of the stuff, paper towels, bottled water, etc for himself
Posted on 6/22/20 at 11:50 am to Mud_Till_May
That a total house generator is well worth the price
Posted on 6/22/20 at 11:51 am to East Coast Band
Damn that’s horrible
Posted on 6/22/20 at 11:55 am to Mudminnow
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Dirty politicians can be blamed for many of Louisiana problems
And success, historically speaking
Posted on 6/22/20 at 11:56 am to notiger1997
Meh, wasn’t horrible, just opened my eyes to knowing what type a person he is
Wasn’t surprising that his wife finally had enough of him and his cheating, she finally left him
Wasn’t surprising that his wife finally had enough of him and his cheating, she finally left him
Posted on 6/22/20 at 12:04 pm to Mud_Till_May
quote:A woman has no place as governor.
What did you learn from Katrina?
Posted on 6/22/20 at 12:36 pm to Mud_Till_May
Where does one begin? When we woke up Monday morning, the talking heads on the big news networks were saying New Orleans had dodged a bullet. Little did they know that the levees had started failing and would continue to fail the rest of the day. By that afternoon it was becoming clear something very terrible was happening. I had evacuated out of state and in watching the coverage of the flooding, I literally couldn't believe it; thought I was watching some CGI movie.
Had the levee protection system been properly built, Katrina would have been a downed-power-line, roof damage hurricane to New Orleans rather than a cataclysm. But the levees were not properly built, which was a fact the government and its contractors knew from day one, dating back to the 1990s and before that. The lesson was that Katrina, at least for New Orleans, was a man-made disaster.
Had the levee protection system been properly built, Katrina would have been a downed-power-line, roof damage hurricane to New Orleans rather than a cataclysm. But the levees were not properly built, which was a fact the government and its contractors knew from day one, dating back to the 1990s and before that. The lesson was that Katrina, at least for New Orleans, was a man-made disaster.
Posted on 6/22/20 at 12:42 pm to Mud_Till_May
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What did you learn from Katrina?
even if you are told you're in a no flood zone, pay for flood insurance.
Posted on 6/22/20 at 12:44 pm to Mud_Till_May
Don't believe the media....
And take anyone who starts a conversation with "I heard" will be total bull shite...
And take anyone who starts a conversation with "I heard" will be total bull shite...
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