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re: What countries are easiest to get citizenship

Posted on 1/21/17 at 11:27 am to
Posted by Corkfather
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Posted on 1/21/17 at 11:27 am to
The freedom of movement you get from a US Passport is unrivaled, it's accepted by pretty much every country on Earth with the exception of places like N. Korea. Aside from that, US citizenship and the protection it grants you abroad is extremely valuable.

You say you don't need your US citizenship anymore, why don't you just become naturalized and pay taxes in whatever country you decide to live in? Also, you're not paying taxes on earned income up to a certain threshold if you remain outside of the US for a certain period of consecutive time.
Posted by elsu
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Posted on 1/21/17 at 11:30 am to
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The freedom of movement you get from a US Passport is unrivaled, it's accepted by pretty much every country on Earth with the exception of places like N. Korea. Aside from that, US citizenship and the protection it grants you abroad is extremely valuable.


This all day
Posted by redstick13
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Posted on 1/21/17 at 11:31 am to
Because I'm considering living overseas as an individual and not supported by an international company. I'm only weighing options.
Posted by tigerpimpbot
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Posted on 1/21/17 at 11:32 am to
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you can prove an ancestor was an Italian citizen and never denounced their citizenship before a certain date, I want to say ~1920, you're entitled to Italian citizenship.



A Brazilian buddy of mine just moved from Brazil to Italy and got his citizenship pretty easily in Italy. I think he went this route.
Posted by Corkfather
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Posted on 1/21/17 at 11:33 am to
Then your best bet is getting citizenship in an EU country. An EU Passport is the only thing that comes close.
Posted by redstick13
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Posted on 1/21/17 at 11:33 am to
Blue passports are not as prestigious as they were 10 years ago.
This post was edited on 1/22/17 at 2:41 am
Posted by Corkfather
Dallas
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Posted on 1/21/17 at 11:35 am to
It's called jure sanguinis, Wiki breaks it down pretty well.
Posted by elsu
H-town
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Posted on 1/21/17 at 11:35 am to
Ahhhh. Gotcha. I pondered never coming back also, but never would give up citizenship, thus I'm back.
Posted by redstick13
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Posted on 1/21/17 at 11:40 am to
US government fricked us over in 2010 when they passed FBAR. Look at the trend of US citizens giving up their citizenship since then.
Posted by Easy
Los Angeles
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Posted on 1/21/17 at 11:49 am to
Why can't you have two passports? I know people that have both Nigerian and US passports.

Anyway what about Africa? Ghana? Nigeria?
Posted by Corkfather
Dallas
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Posted on 1/21/17 at 11:50 am to
You can have two passports, but you need dual-citizenship first.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
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Posted on 1/21/17 at 11:52 am to
If you have 2 Jewish Grandparents, you're eligible for Israeli citizenship. If you're under 26, you can also get a free summer trip there via the Return Program.
Posted by Corkfather
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Posted on 1/21/17 at 11:53 am to
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If you have 2 Jewish Grandparents, you're eligible for Israeli citizenship. If you're under 26, you can also get a free summer trip there via the Return Program.


Doesn't it have to come from the maternal line?
Posted by Napoleon
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Posted on 1/21/17 at 12:15 pm to
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Are you referring to Sicily as a country?


No, I should have put Italy, but I was referring only to Sicily as this program is only in Sicily. Sicily actually operates more autonomously than other Italian areas. Of all the states that unified into Italy, Sicily was the one who went kicking and screaming. The reaction to Sicily by the nation of italy led to intense interstate sanctions and created a huge black market, those that created that black market became the modern mafia. In my statement it was easier to just say Sicily instead of saying the "Autonomous region of Sicily in the Italian Republic".

Posted by Napoleon
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Posted on 1/21/17 at 12:17 pm to
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A place that can issue visas?


Italy can issue visas, Sicily can say that you are a resident alien in good working status within their area.

A lot of time on a minute point.

Posted by Corkfather
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Posted on 1/21/17 at 12:22 pm to
Interesting to know, thanks.
Posted by whit
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 1/21/17 at 1:01 pm to
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Thanks I've been told by friends Ecuador is one place to look at.
The wife is from Ecuador. That place is amazing.
Posted by TheFonz
Somewhere in Louisiana
Member since Jul 2016
23541 posts
Posted on 1/21/17 at 1:01 pm to
Dude, don't give up your U.S. citizenship. Make sure you chose a country where you can hold duel citizenship. You never know if and when you may want to come back. I thought I wouldn't come back but I did.
Posted by redstick13
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Posted on 1/21/17 at 6:12 pm to
Thanks to everyone for the information.
Posted by Sho Nuff
Oahu
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Posted on 1/21/17 at 8:10 pm to
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It's called jure sanguinis, Wiki breaks it down pretty well.



Thanks for the link. Skimmed it quickly and definitely need to read and learn more about it because I didn't see what you said. My great grandmother was born in Sicily and I would love to get dual citizenship if it were possible. She became a citizen of the USA in the early 1900's though. I want to be able to stay in Europe for longer than 90 days in a 6 month period. At some point I could see wanting to live in Italy, Spain, or other countries in Europe. At minimum living and traveling through Europe for a couple years straight.
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