re: What Big Pharma (and theFDA) dont want you to know about Opioid Epidemic

[quote]All kratom did was give me a rash, and I bought a supposedly strong strain from an online dealer with a good reputation.

everyone`s chemistry is different, but from my own personal experience and hundreds of other testimonials I've read, it`s helped so many with chronic pain problems that would turn to opiates if it isn`t available, i tried the pharma ones, lyrics, mirapex, requip, none worked then ran across kratom, instant relief. point is you mighta got a rash but you won`t stop breathing suddenly from taking it.

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Is that what your prescription said to do? Serious question, I'm not being flippant.

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Yes, but I'm a little different than most. My tolerance levels are about equal to horse.

When going under for surgery it takes 3.5 times the normal human dose to put me out.

Edit: I'll add that I get used to things very quickly. I literally have to swap between Norco and Percocet every month so my body doesn't get used to the chemical combination too quickly. Something to do with my stomach enzymes is the problem.

Wife number one died from that #$%&.... MD's are just as much to blame as the pill-poppers for this epidemic...

I have three full health and hospital coverages but I refuse to be on a schedule of their meds. Good cannabis, vodka and a sensable diet is all I need.

So much is fricked up here with this. Vicodin/Hydrocodone being made triplicate has been a tipping point for all of this. Heroin use is up now because it is cheaper than Norco.

Pound of prevention worth an ounce of cure.?

A friend of mine became addicted to oxy after having surgery on his shoulder from a baseball injury. luckily he was sent to a rehabilitation center that keeps you for several months, then works people back into society. They use temporary jobs (mostly doing some type of labor) to get them on a schedule and transition back to a "normal" life.

Not all doctors prescribe pain meds hand over fist, but for years it hasn't been hard for people to find a doctor who will continue to give patients the prescriptions they want. With that said, even with a prescription, there are people who will go through a monthly prescription in 2 weeks so they have to buy on the streets.

In order to supply the dealers on the street, they have people who they get to go to several doctors a month, dealer pays for the appointment, pays to have scripts filled and will pay the person who does it by giving them a few pills from each script. They know what doctors to use and its not hard to find a small town, family owned pharmacy that will fill pain med prescriptions for the same person, several times a month. They are paying in cash so these pharmacies turn a blind eye to it all.

I think its getting harder and harder to do this, but today I can think of 4 or 5 people off the top of my head who are addicts. 10 years ago I don't think I knew anyone addicted. I would hear a story about someone's sibling or a friend of a friend, but then it seems like it started to spread like a virus.

Look at how crack became an epidemic. In the mid 80s, rebels (supported by the US) in the Nicaragua war funded their role in the war by selling cocaine. Obviously turning it into crack made it highly addictive then they looked for areas that had a low police presence so they could get it out into the communities without having to worry about law enforcement as much. South central L.A. became the posterchild area of the crack epidemic, but I think when you break it all down, its the people on the very top of the chain who should be blamed and money is always the motivator.

For a patient without pain complaint? BS

More like, "Doc, I can't take it! I have a real high tolerance for pain but this is killing me. I can't take Toradol or Motrin. They gave me something in ER, but it didn't work. It was Lor, Lor, I don't know. Lor something. But I do know the Percocet works, but not the 7.5." No, let's try Ultram. Patient back in office next day. "Nope didn't work. This is killing me"


Remember now, if patient is dissatisfied your rating goes down and your likelihood of lawsuit goes up. And the patient does have an injury history. Sure, patient seems kind of wimpy about the pain, but there was an MVA. So, sometimes you write a script just to last until the next step in workup is done. MRI, PT, etc.

I seriously doubt any doc is telling people who aren't asking for pain meds that they MUST take pain meds.

Some people like the feeling that drugs provide (me included)
But ... Why should those that overuse their prescriptions stop doctors from prescribing them to people in pain that don't overuse them?

Because a guy has a car wreck, should we stop gasoline?
Sure some abuse things and die.
They made their choice.
Why should others suffer because some make bad decisions?

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doctors aren't one with physical therapy, natural herbs, and actual care for patients' wellbeing like they should

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May be some merit to this, may not be. But it doesn't change the fact that these patients are not being given prescriptions against there wishes.