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re: What Are the Chances to Transfer into LSU Law from Southern Law?
Posted on 11/21/16 at 8:59 am to theronswanson
Posted on 11/21/16 at 8:59 am to theronswanson
my son has a 3.34 and a 164, full ride for SULC? what kind of scholarship could he get for LsuLS
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Posted on 11/21/16 at 9:00 am to CSATiger
Yea, just make sure he tells them his father is a CSA sympathizer for the really good scholarships.
Posted on 11/21/16 at 9:00 am to CSATiger
Judging from your name I'm assuming he's white so LSU will probably waive the application fee but that's it
This post was edited on 11/21/16 at 9:01 am
Posted on 11/21/16 at 9:06 am to King Teal
Posted on 11/21/16 at 9:07 am to CSATiger
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my son has a 3.34 and a 164, full ride for SULC? what kind of scholarship could he get for LsuLS
That probably gets him a full ride depending on what his degree is in.
Posted on 11/21/16 at 9:09 am to UpToPar
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That probably gets him a full ride depending on what his degree is in.
Poli Sci- Honors College
Posted on 11/21/16 at 9:09 am to LSUTigersVCURams
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I've heard LSU has only taken one transfer in its entire long and storied history and that was one John Randall Trahan
A perfect example of how grades and entrance exams don't translate to shite in the real world.
Posted on 11/21/16 at 9:13 am to CSATiger
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my son has a 3.34 and a 164, full ride for SULC? what kind of scholarship could he get for LsuLS
Big scholarship depending on when he applies. Probably a full ride if he has already applied. A 3.0 and a 160 got you 50% reduction when I was there, but only if you applies in the fall. I took the Feb. LSAT and had slightly better credentials than that and and got a few grand knocked off.
Posted on 11/21/16 at 9:16 am to King Teal
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Is Southern Law better than LSU now?
No.
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When I was there I had friends at Southern who said it was terrible, but maybe they've turned it around and will be leading the State soon?
No. Southern has part time deadbeat students who can't pass the bar because they don't give a f&%k. Those students would flunk out their 1L year at LSU, but at Southern, you pay your fees, you get your degree.
As with most things, your education is what you make of it. What Southern teaches is very practical, and one who goes there with the intention to learn and succeed will likely do so. LSU is more theoretical. Southern prides themselves on teaching students to become attorneys while LSU teaches students to become law professors and law review authors.
The real difference is the level of rigor. Someone with a 2.7 at LSU probably busted their arse to get that. Someone with a 2.7 at Southern probably rarely shows up to class. At LSU, they flunk people in massive quantities. At Southern, you have to try to fail. This means that those who didn't care enough to pass the bar rarely graduate from LSU, but those with that mindset can get a passing grade at Southern.
If the real measure of a law school is what you can do with your degree, LSU wins...in the private sector. An LSU degree is great if you want to work for a firm in the state of Louisiana or for the U.S. state department abroad (most non-English speaking countries use a legal framework similar to or modeled after Louisiana's Civil Code). However, state and local government jobs are dominated by Southern grads.
However, in the end, LSU grads have a much higher bar passage rate, much higher job placement percentage, and a much higher average income than Southern grads. Southern is cheaper, less rigorous, and offers a part time night school for those who can't afford to have zero income for an entire year.
Posted on 11/21/16 at 9:19 am to kingbob
Most ADAs I know are LSU grads. Not sure where Southern gets the rep that it dominates govt jobs.
Posted on 11/21/16 at 9:34 am to kingbob
I've met a few SULC grads in the public sector, but they were usually token hires for a diverse office (and they were relegated to traffic or city court; not that it really matters, they get paid the same )
However, most are LSU grads.
) However, most are LSU grads.
Posted on 11/21/16 at 9:41 am to NIH
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Most ADAs I know are LSU grads. Not sure where Southern gets the rep that it dominates govt jobs.
if it's like other parts of the country, the bad law schools dominate bad government jobs.
Posted on 11/21/16 at 9:45 am to CSATiger
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my son has a 3.34 and a 164, full ride for SULC? what kind of scholarship could he get for LsuLS
That probably gets him a full ride depending on what his degree is in.
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Poli Sci- Honors College
Eh...probably not a full ride, but a really good scholy. Probably 2/3 or 3/4.
Posted on 11/21/16 at 9:49 am to Pettifogger
There are probably some sweet $30k/year City Attorney jobs out there in Rayville for SULC grads.
Posted on 11/21/16 at 10:12 am to CSATiger
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Poli Sci- Honors College
the one degree (besides maybe History) that hurts his chances at a full ride. Poli Sci majors are a dime a dozen on law school applications.
Posted on 11/21/16 at 10:44 am to GEAUXT
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Posted on 11/21/16 at 11:03 am to kingbob
Glad to hear SULC has added an evening division, because we didn't have enough attorneys in Louisiana already.
I think its been well covered on this board before, but Southern Law School allows you to check the box of "graduated from accredited law school" (although Southern has had its challenges with keeping its accreditation) to be able to sit for the bar exam. Having Southern Law on your resume creates a barrier for entry level associate positions with private firms (namely Big Law), but there are individuals that have overcome it. If becoming an attorney and looking to practice in the solo/small firm/government capacity is your goal, Southern is a fine choice. If you are looking to find a job in Big Law, it will be more of a challenge with Southern on your resume (more than if you went to Loyola, LSU or Tulane) to get through the door and odds are against you.
Having practiced for 10+ years now, it's clear that the legal environment has changed (for a number of reasons), including the hiring practices of many firms. Technology and regulation have made the engaging and retaining of clients more competitive. Plain and simple, it's harder to make money in this business now. I remember an older attorney telling me that when he graduated you could walk into Whitney Bank and they would give an attorney a $40K line of credit with no questions asked.
I am of the opinion that anyone that can add value and knows what they are doing can find work. There is always "lateral" movement and firm's do not turn down good book of business additions.
I think its been well covered on this board before, but Southern Law School allows you to check the box of "graduated from accredited law school" (although Southern has had its challenges with keeping its accreditation) to be able to sit for the bar exam. Having Southern Law on your resume creates a barrier for entry level associate positions with private firms (namely Big Law), but there are individuals that have overcome it. If becoming an attorney and looking to practice in the solo/small firm/government capacity is your goal, Southern is a fine choice. If you are looking to find a job in Big Law, it will be more of a challenge with Southern on your resume (more than if you went to Loyola, LSU or Tulane) to get through the door and odds are against you.
Having practiced for 10+ years now, it's clear that the legal environment has changed (for a number of reasons), including the hiring practices of many firms. Technology and regulation have made the engaging and retaining of clients more competitive. Plain and simple, it's harder to make money in this business now. I remember an older attorney telling me that when he graduated you could walk into Whitney Bank and they would give an attorney a $40K line of credit with no questions asked.
I am of the opinion that anyone that can add value and knows what they are doing can find work. There is always "lateral" movement and firm's do not turn down good book of business additions.
Posted on 11/21/16 at 11:04 am to logjamming
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A perfect example of how grades and entrance exams don't translate to shite in the real world.
Exactly my point. SULC prepares you for the real world practice of law. Something LSU grads don't have at graduation.
Posted on 11/21/16 at 11:12 am to theronswanson
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Posted on 11/21/16 at 11:17 am to SabiDojo
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Judging from your name I'm assuming he's white
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