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We've never made a successful vaccine for a coronavirus before.

Posted on 6/29/20 at 2:04 pm
Posted by TIGER2
Mandeville.La
Member since Jan 2006
10511 posts
Posted on 6/29/20 at 2:04 pm
If we ever get something It won't be before next flu season. It could be years before we come up with something, or never. So what can we do? Do things that will make you a more healthy person. wear mask, keep older people and those with health problems safe. Lets get on with life.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
74753 posts
Posted on 6/29/20 at 2:06 pm to
We’ve never needed to


Silly thread
This post was edited on 6/29/20 at 2:07 pm
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
76241 posts
Posted on 6/29/20 at 2:06 pm to
To be fair, we've never put much money or resources into making one before. It has been a legitimate gripe from the science community for years. However, until now, there was no real money to be made to recoup expenses.
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
49580 posts
Posted on 6/29/20 at 2:06 pm to
Our best option would be to allow healthy people under 50 to quickly contract it now instead of spreading out their infections over years.

All these measures just prolong the inevitable.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
37588 posts
Posted on 6/29/20 at 2:06 pm to
What university is your immunology degree from?
Posted by windshieldman
Member since Nov 2012
12818 posts
Posted on 6/29/20 at 2:07 pm to
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wear mask


No thanks. What works even better is not invading someone’s personal space, not going in public sick, washing hands, putting arm over face if you cough, and again, not getting in someone’s face while talking to them.
Posted by colorchangintiger
Dan Carlin
Member since Nov 2005
30979 posts
Posted on 6/29/20 at 2:08 pm to
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We’ve never needed to


Silly thread


You don't think a vaccine for the common cold would be immensely profitable?
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
49580 posts
Posted on 6/29/20 at 2:08 pm to
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You don't think a vaccine for the common cold would be immensely profitable?



Probably not
Posted by LordSaintly
Member since Dec 2005
43342 posts
Posted on 6/29/20 at 2:09 pm to
Until recently, coronaviruses weren't worth the time, money or effort.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
29134 posts
Posted on 6/29/20 at 2:11 pm to
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You don't think a vaccine for the common cold would be immensely profitable?
Doubtful. It would require constant development like the flu vaccine every year, would likely be far less effective, and the symptoms typically aren't much to worry about anyway.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
76241 posts
Posted on 6/29/20 at 2:12 pm to
Research into anti-virals has been grossly neglected and underfunded for years. Every administration since Bush, The Elder has cut funding to virology research. Now, we are demanding these people do decades of research in a few months time.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
76241 posts
Posted on 6/29/20 at 2:13 pm to
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Until recently, coronaviruses weren't worth the time, money or effort.

Coronaviruses weren't, other viruses were. The very mess we are in now proves it.
This post was edited on 6/29/20 at 2:14 pm
Posted by LordSaintly
Member since Dec 2005
43342 posts
Posted on 6/29/20 at 2:17 pm to
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You don't think a vaccine for the common cold would be immensely profitable?


People aren't spending money for something that's remedied by chicken soup. Hell, many people don't even medicate at all when they get colds.
Posted by TIGER2
Mandeville.La
Member since Jan 2006
10511 posts
Posted on 6/29/20 at 2:18 pm to
No money?
Feb. 24, 2003 -- The cost of the common cold isn't cheap. Across the country, millions of people stay at home, popping pills, sucking lozenges, squirting miracle cures up their noses, as they wage this all-too-familiar war against the unbeatable virus.

In fact, this "war" costs the U.S. economy roughly $40 billion a year -- substantially more than other conditions like asthma, heart failure, and emphysema.

"From a bottle of cough syrup to missed time at work and school, the price tag of catching a cold really adds up," says researcher A. Mark Fendrick, MD, with the Consortium for Health Outcomes, Innovation, and Cost Effectiveness Studies at the University of Michigan, Ann Arbor.

His study appears in this week's Archives of Internal Medicine.

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In it, he reports the results from a nationwide telephone survey of more than 4,000 U.S. households. Nearly 75% reported suffering from a cold within the last year, with an average of 2.5 episodes.

"A cold is the most commonly occurring illness in humans, so it was no surprise that there are approximately 500 million colds each year in the U.S.," says Fendrick. "What was a surprise is how often the public uses the health care system to treat a cold."

Those surveyed reported their doctors' bills, over-the-counter medication costs, and costs of prescription drugs. They also reported days when work and school were missed, a cost that is generally overlooked, says Fendrick.

"For some, catching a cold may lead to a trip to the drug store to stock up on throat lozenges and nasal congestion, and for others a brief doctor's visit," he adds. "The public doesn't usually consider the costs associated with missing a day of work due to illness or having to stay at home to take care of a sick child. Not surprisingly, lost work drives most of the cost."

Fendrick found that Americans spend $2.9 billion on over-the-counter drugs and another $400 million on prescription medicines for symptom relief. Also, more than $1.1 billion are spent annually on the estimated 41 million antibiotic prescriptions for cold sufferers -- even though antibiotics have no effect on a viral illness.

"We found that the common cold leads to more than 100 million physician visits annually at a conservative cost estimate of $7.7 billion a year," Fendrick says. "More than one-third of patients who saw a doctor received an antibiotic prescription. While these unnecessary costs are problematic, what is more concerning is how these treatment patterns contribute to the development of antibiotic resistance, a significant public health concern."

The study reports that an estimated 189 million school days are missed annually because of a cold. Also, parents missed 126 million workdays in order to stay home to care for their child. When added to the workdays missed by employees suffering from a cold, the total economic impact of cold-related work loss exceeds $20 billion.

"Because there is no cure for the common cold it gets far less attention than many less common conditions," Fendrick says. "An intervention that would effectively prevent or treat the cold would have a huge clinical and economic impact, far greater than for chronic diseases that we hear about on a regular basis."

WebMD Health News
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Posted by Tiger Stadium 11
Charleston, SC
Member since Oct 2009
5510 posts
Posted on 6/29/20 at 2:21 pm to
Knows what’s more profitable than a cure/vaccine for a common cold that won’t kill you? Not making a cure to keep your demand intact and just make remedies therapies to make you feel better while you have it.
Posted by colorchangintiger
Dan Carlin
Member since Nov 2005
30979 posts
Posted on 6/29/20 at 2:21 pm to
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Hell, many people don't even medicate at all when they get colds.


I'm one of them, but if I could get a vaccine where I wouldn't have to worry about it would do it in a heart beat.

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It would require constant development like the flu vaccine every year


True, but there are labs working towards a universal flu vaccine. That's what I was thinking of since we're talking hypothetically anyway.

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Knows what’s more profitable than a cure/vaccine for a common cold that won’t kill you? Not making a cure to keep your demand intact and just make remedies therapies to make you feel better while you have it.


This is a fallacy. We have many competing labs (that don't make or profit from cold medicine) trying to develop cures.
This post was edited on 6/29/20 at 2:25 pm
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
79865 posts
Posted on 6/29/20 at 2:23 pm to
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putting arm over face if you cough


Works better than the mask?
Posted by lsu13lsu
Member since Jan 2008
11843 posts
Posted on 6/29/20 at 2:27 pm to
Haven't we made one for cattle and dogs?
Posted by windshieldman
Member since Nov 2012
12818 posts
Posted on 6/29/20 at 2:28 pm to
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Works better than the mask?


It works the same and you can even clean your arm. It doesn’t work less or more better than a mask. But you can do that, something we were taught at 7 years old, and not have to wear a mask
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
76241 posts
Posted on 6/29/20 at 2:30 pm to
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Haven't we made one for cattle and dogs?

Yeah, but all you've gotta do is wrap it up in cheese to get the pup to take it.
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