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We've been worrying about the global population explosion. We may have been all wrong

Posted on 2/6/19 at 4:21 pm
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
98132 posts
Posted on 2/6/19 at 4:21 pm
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You know the story. Despite technologies, regulations, and policies to make humanity less of a strain on the earth, people just won’t stop reproducing. By 2050 there will be 9 billion carbon-burning, plastic-polluting, calorie-consuming people on the planet. By 2100, that number will balloon to 11 billion, pushing society into a Soylent Green scenario. Such dire population predictions aren’t the stuff of sci-fi; those numbers come from one of the most trusted world authorities, the United Nations.

But what if they’re wrong? Not like, off by a rounding error, but like totally, completely goofed?

That’s the conclusion Canadian journalist John Ibbitson and political scientist Darrell Bricker come to in their newest book, Empty Planet, due out February 5th. After painstakingly breaking down the numbers for themselves, the pair arrived at a drastically different prediction for the future of the human species. “In roughly three decades, the global population will begin to decline,” they write. “Once that decline begins, it will never end.”


Posted by LordSaintly
Member since Dec 2005
38854 posts
Posted on 2/6/19 at 4:23 pm to
This is terrible. What are we going to do...

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By 2100



nvm don't care
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
101293 posts
Posted on 2/6/19 at 4:26 pm to
Malthusianism was always a great litmus test on whether one should be taken seriously on ANYTHING ELSE.

The idea of "over population" of any species is all but an impossibility. Negative population growth has been a looming issue for the educated world for some time now. It's already done a number on Japan, and is starting to decimate Western Europe.
Posted by iAmBatman
The Batcave
Member since Mar 2011
12382 posts
Posted on 2/6/19 at 4:26 pm to
The wife and I have already bred our replacements so we did our part.
Posted by Phil A Sheo
equinsu ocha
Member since Aug 2011
12166 posts
Posted on 2/6/19 at 4:28 pm to
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By 2100


Damn... I'll be 120
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67004 posts
Posted on 2/6/19 at 4:32 pm to
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Malthusianism was always a great litmus test on whether one should be taken seriously on ANYTHING ELSE.


Exactly. Unless there is some kind of government intervention, the laws of supply and demand typically cause populations to increase only at the rate that the resources allow for. Basically, if people can't afford to feed the family they have, outside of some government-compelling factor, the bulk of people choose not to have more kids. At the same time, as prices go up, the incentives to find ways to generate more resources from the same raw materials increases until breakthroughs and inventions are made, increasing the carrying capacity, lower prices, and affordability for a larger generation to follow.

In countries that industrialize, there is a rapid boom in population. However, as the following generations become more educated and affluent, population growth stagnates and eventually collapses as families have fewer and fewer children.

We keep expecting the 3rd world to continue to reproduce exponentially, but as nations like India, Pakistan, China, and Indonesia become increasingly modern, their birth rates are starting to slow down, much like the Western nations during the 1970's after the Baby Boom was over.

Malthusianism (outside of things like unmanaged fisheries), is largely a myth and usually depends on faulty assumptions that humans do not reproduce based on supply and demand.
Posted by ThatMakesSense
Fort Lauderdale
Member since Aug 2015
14792 posts
Posted on 2/6/19 at 4:32 pm to
I agree with the article, except for them saying that population growth, once negative, will continue to be a greater negative.
Posted by McLemore
Member since Dec 2003
31438 posts
Posted on 2/6/19 at 4:33 pm to
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We've


Not I.
Posted by crewdepoo
Hogwarts
Member since Jan 2015
9580 posts
Posted on 2/6/19 at 4:40 pm to
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of the most trusted world authorities, the United Nations.

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Canadian journalist John Ibbitson and political scientist Darrell Bricker
Posted by TOSOV
Member since Jan 2016
8922 posts
Posted on 2/6/19 at 4:40 pm to
Soooo are we needing to buy the book to get the answer??

Not how it works around here
Posted by Coach Buzzcut
Member since Feb 2016
1359 posts
Posted on 2/6/19 at 6:24 pm to
Africa's population will double by 2050. Europe is screwed, especially if this open border policy continues
Posted by Pecker
Rocky Top
Member since May 2015
16674 posts
Posted on 2/6/19 at 6:37 pm to
Population is out of control. No it’s not. Milk is bad. No it’s good. Don’t feed your baby peanuts too early. Must feed baby peanuts immediately. Global warming is out of control. Record breaking cold let’s call it climate change. Weed is fine. Weed makes you retarded. Women love dad bods. Your wife cheated on you because of your dad bod. Autism is an epidemic. Never mind we just made it easier to diagnose everyone with autism. Millennials eat more arse than previous generations. This is actually probably true.



Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
98132 posts
Posted on 2/6/19 at 6:38 pm to
That's covered in the article. Africa's growth rate is also projected to slow.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
43318 posts
Posted on 2/6/19 at 6:40 pm to
To quote the great Harvey Danger:

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Been around the world and found
That only stupid people are breeding.
The cretins cloning and feeding,
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
90498 posts
Posted on 2/6/19 at 6:55 pm to
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By 2100


Damn... I'll be 120


Well I’ll only be 110!
Posted by TheCurmudgeon
Not where I want to be
Member since Aug 2014
1481 posts
Posted on 2/6/19 at 7:41 pm to
Good. Can't start the reduction soon enough.
Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
Member since Apr 2015
29139 posts
Posted on 2/6/19 at 7:48 pm to
Population needs to decline, humanity is a cancer upon this earth. We don’t need more people, there’s nothing good that comes from it.
Posted by keks tadpole
Yellow Leaf Creek
Member since Feb 2017
7573 posts
Posted on 2/6/19 at 8:01 pm to
Our alien overlords will be here long before then to harvest us.
Posted by Harry Caray
Denial
Member since Aug 2009
18636 posts
Posted on 2/6/19 at 8:03 pm to
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By 2100


Damn... I'll be 120


Well I’ll only be 110!

Subtle O Brother Where Art Thou reference
Posted by genuineLSUtiger
Nashville
Member since Sep 2005
72870 posts
Posted on 2/6/19 at 8:05 pm to
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those numbers come from one of the most trusted world authorities, the United Nations.


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