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re: Weather technology is becoming too good

Posted on 4/19/19 at 6:07 am to
Posted by TH03
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Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 4/19/19 at 6:07 am to
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I started getting text and emails from my kids school at 5 am this morning saying school was closed due to the threat of tornado activity throughout the day.


Jesus man
Posted by TDsngumbo
Alpha Silverfox
Member since Oct 2011
41633 posts
Posted on 4/19/19 at 7:04 am to
Don’t bother. He’s apparently too clueless to even realize how he sounds.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
36053 posts
Posted on 4/19/19 at 7:18 am to
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And if they let kids out half way through the day, the bitching on this board would be on another level.

But not from me

It’s common sense.

Posted by JamalSanders
On a boat
Member since Jul 2015
12135 posts
Posted on 4/19/19 at 7:35 am to
quote:

They blew it and scared the absolute shite out of the media addicted sheep. They should he held responsible for the mental injury they inflicted.
The sun was shining this morning and I had employees sitting at their desks crying because they were terrified.

Is selling a few more commercials really worth the fear they induce?


People died yesterday from the tornadoes.
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
146214 posts
Posted on 4/19/19 at 7:55 am to
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Jesus man




Why is that so hard to believe? I got a text from school at 5:51 am and an email from school at 5:55 am

Why would I make that up?
Posted by TDsngumbo
Alpha Silverfox
Member since Oct 2011
41633 posts
Posted on 4/19/19 at 8:03 am to
You have GOT to be trolling.
Posted by theenemy
Member since Oct 2006
13078 posts
Posted on 4/19/19 at 10:25 am to
I didnt mind the closure.

My normal way to work is closed due to bridge repair....a bridge on the detour collapsed tuesday...Wednesday morning parish work crew was filling in 2 washouts with gravel on that detour and the only other way is about 6 inches from water going over the road.

Wouldn't have taken much to flood and cut a lot of people off from getting home.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
84991 posts
Posted on 4/19/19 at 10:52 am to
quote:

But not from me

It’s common sense.



With all due respect, it would be an abaolut clusterfrick if they closed school across the area halfway through the day. That's not debatable.
Posted by East Coast Band
Member since Nov 2010
62800 posts
Posted on 4/19/19 at 12:12 pm to
quote:

Both people that were killed in Mississippi were traffic fatalities related to the weather.



But, a fatality in Alabama last night, the woman was in her mobile home and a tree fell on her house.
Posted by Duke
Twin Lakes, CO
Member since Jan 2008
35629 posts
Posted on 4/19/19 at 12:28 pm to
I think back to the convective allowing models the SPC uses, on Wednesday evening. They showed most of the UH up in Mississippi. Had a messy convection mechanism in Louisiana. Storms severe into Alabama. They each had different solutions but the aggregate was pretty much on point.

It's hard not to be impressed just how right those got the situation yesterday. Just ten years ago, there wasn't nearly this quality in modeling.
Posted by joshwj93
Member since Feb 2019
627 posts
Posted on 4/19/19 at 12:31 pm to
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But, a fatality in Alabama last night, the woman was in her mobile home and a tree fell on her house.

You cant stop all fatalities however I think we can all agree the less people on the roads the better. Also I still think alot of the closures were just due to there being a long weekend anyway.
Posted by 50_Tiger
Dallas TX
Member since Jan 2016
40106 posts
Posted on 4/19/19 at 12:31 pm to
quote:

I think back to the convective allowing models the SPC uses, on Wednesday evening. They showed most of the UH up in Mississippi. Had a messy convection mechanism in Louisiana. Storms severe into Alabama. They each had different solutions but the aggregate was pretty much on point.

It's hard not to be impressed just how right those got the situation yesterday. Just ten years ago, there wasn't nearly this quality in modeling.



Duke, in this instant content consumption age, dildos are bitching that you cant tell them within a minute if a tornado will drop on their house at 5pm on x day.

I for one thank you and rds for allowing a hobby of mine to grow in the knowledge that I didn't have before.
Posted by Duke
Twin Lakes, CO
Member since Jan 2008
35629 posts
Posted on 4/19/19 at 12:36 pm to
quote:

Duke, in this instant content consumption age, dildos are bitching that you cant tell them within a minute if a tornado will drop on their house at 5pm on x day.



Victims of their own success, the weather people.

quote:


I for one thank you and rds for allowing a hobby of mine to grow in the knowledge that I didn't have before


Glad you've enjoyed learning more. I know I have from dudes like rds.

It was a hobby for me too, but so much of one I've forgone doing engineering and am working on a met degree now. It's great to have others here who are interested too, to share my fascination with the sky.
Posted by FairhopeTider
Fairhope, Alabama
Member since May 2012
20770 posts
Posted on 4/19/19 at 2:04 pm to
I think it’s worth to have the conversation that local media can be way too obsessed with the weather and will hype events to a level that’s unnecessary for ratings. That starts a ripple effect to where local schools/organizations feel like they have to be too proactive.

In Alabama, 4/27/11 & Snowmageddon 2014 have created this narrative that every potential event has to be hyped up. Then the busts (which seems to happen more often than not) are a lot more noticeable than they used to be because now everyone has rearranged their day.

Posted by hubertcumberdale
Member since Nov 2009
6515 posts
Posted on 4/19/19 at 3:07 pm to
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I’m saying we rely on model output a little too much in some instances. Perhaps do away with the “slight/enhanced/moderate/high risk crap. Just say “hey, the potential for severe weather and tornadoes exists tomorrow so prepare and pay attention”. Too much of a good thing can sometimes be a bad thing.


The entire point of a numerical model is to quantify something
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
36053 posts
Posted on 4/19/19 at 4:25 pm to
quote:


With all due respect, it would be an abaolut clusterfrick if they closed school across the area halfway through the day. That's not debatable.


It’s been done several times in recent years with few issues.

Buses roll, parents car pool, whatever.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
36053 posts
Posted on 4/19/19 at 4:27 pm to
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It's hard not to be impressed just how right those got the situation yesterday. Just ten years ago, there wasn't nearly this quality in modeling.

You have a link to quantify just how much better the 24 hour forecast has gotten over the last decade?
Posted by Duke
Twin Lakes, CO
Member since Jan 2008
35629 posts
Posted on 4/19/19 at 4:43 pm to
PDF From UAlbany From 2014 Looking At SPC Forecasting Skill

Page 4 has a nice chart to look at and see how the forecasting skill has improved over the past two decades, with full explanations of how they determined it.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
36053 posts
Posted on 4/19/19 at 4:56 pm to
That chart shows no improvent in the 24 hour forecast from 2006 to 2012 where it stops.

My personal experience, certainly not scientific, indicates that although we see forecasts given 3, 5 and even 10 days out; there’s really not much difference in the 24 hour forecast.

The link provided isn’t current so I can’t really determine if I’m right or wrong.
Posted by pankReb
Defending National Champs Fan
Member since Mar 2009
64539 posts
Posted on 4/19/19 at 5:10 pm to
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Fear sells. Ratings result from fear. Media eats this stuff up. Social media influence makes it take off like wildfire.




But this isn't ratings period so...
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