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re: We lost an American hero 140 years ago today...

Posted on 7/23/25 at 8:06 pm to
Posted by Sus-Scrofa
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Posted on 7/23/25 at 8:06 pm to
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Hell, he got his arse handed to him the first day at Shiloh when there was a level playing field numbers wise. It took reinforcements on day two to avoid a catastrophe


Sherman: “Well, Grant, we've had the devil's own day, haven't we?”

Grant: “Yes. Lick em tomorrow though.”
Posted by Missouri Waltz
Adrift off the Spanish Main
Member since Feb 2016
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Posted on 7/23/25 at 8:24 pm to
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not once was he forced to do anything noteworthy

After re-entering the army, being promoted to the rank of brigadier general, and given command of the Military District of Southeast Missouri, Grant would fight and lose his first battle at Belmont in Mississippi County, Missouri. His opponent was Leonidas Polk who most historians recognize as the worst general in the Confederate Army.
Posted by Deplorableinohio
Member since Dec 2018
7274 posts
Posted on 7/23/25 at 8:40 pm to
A great United States president.
Posted by Deplorableinohio
Member since Dec 2018
7274 posts
Posted on 7/23/25 at 8:41 pm to
Absolutely not. Learn history. Read Chernow’s biography.
Posted by Hateradedrink
Member since May 2023
4045 posts
Posted on 7/23/25 at 8:42 pm to
Upvoted.

Don’t start none, won’t be none.

God hates a rebellion.
This post was edited on 7/23/25 at 8:42 pm
Posted by Lexis Dad
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Posted on 7/23/25 at 8:55 pm to


Posted by EvrybodysAllAmerican
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 7/23/25 at 8:55 pm to
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His reputation has actually improved dramatically amongst presidential historians. In the late-20th century, most had him ranked near the bottom. Most now rank him in the middle tier.


Biden made them all look better.
Posted by geauxbrown
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
25699 posts
Posted on 7/23/25 at 10:15 pm to
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Grant - yep, lick em tomorrow though


True. He knew Don Carlos was on the way.
This post was edited on 7/23/25 at 10:16 pm
Posted by Rip Torn
Member since Mar 2020
5961 posts
Posted on 7/23/25 at 10:17 pm to
I mean sure he was probably an effective general but he was a terrible President. How are you not aware of this?
Posted by Rip Torn
Member since Mar 2020
5961 posts
Posted on 7/23/25 at 10:20 pm to
Oh so the people who lived closest to his actual lifespan were worse judges of his character than historians several decades later? Are these the same Presidential historians who rank Biden ahead of several other Presidents? Lol
Posted by Rip Torn
Member since Mar 2020
5961 posts
Posted on 7/23/25 at 10:21 pm to
Yeah not even close to being accurate
Posted by FearlessFreep
Baja Alabama
Member since Nov 2009
19575 posts
Posted on 7/23/25 at 10:27 pm to
gives me the ideal opportunity to post this:

If Grant Had Been Drinking At Appomattox
Posted by ManWithNoNsme
Member since Feb 2022
924 posts
Posted on 7/23/25 at 10:30 pm to
I dropped a turd
Posted by ManWithNoNsme
Member since Feb 2022
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Posted on 7/23/25 at 10:36 pm to
Looks just like Grant….amazing
Posted by Roscoe
Member since Sep 2007
3074 posts
Posted on 7/23/25 at 10:40 pm to
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We have a parish named after him not that the citizens had much say in the matter.


And the Parish seat is named after his VP.
Posted by grizzlylongcut
Member since Sep 2021
14487 posts
Posted on 7/23/25 at 10:56 pm to
frick him and his fellow terrorist Sherman.

They were the hounds of the tyrant Lincoln.
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
36038 posts
Posted on 7/24/25 at 6:45 am to
The South FAFO and got Grant, Sherman, Sheridan and Farragut.
Posted by Strannix
C.S.A.
Member since Dec 2012
52952 posts
Posted on 7/24/25 at 6:57 am to
The Butcher Grant

He had an endless supply of poor Irish immigrants they would take right off the boats to help subjugate the South, the Tyrant Lincoln’s bloodlust knew no bounds.
Posted by TheHarahanian
Actually not Harahan as of 6/2023
Member since May 2017
23188 posts
Posted on 7/24/25 at 7:35 am to
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His final resting place in New York City, known appropriately as Grant's Tomb, is the final resting place for both him and his wife and is visited by an estimated 100,000 tourists every year.

As of a few years back, the city had neglected his tomb to the point that it was a graffiti and urine magnet.
Posted by Sus-Scrofa
Member since Feb 2013
10482 posts
Posted on 7/24/25 at 7:45 am to
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frick him and his fellow terrorist Sherman. They were the hounds of the tyrant Lincoln.


Random side story. After SC seceded and before Sherman went north from Louisiana he wrote a bunch of letters.

In them, he argued correctly that the south could never win if the fight was in the east, based on population, manufacturing, etc. the north could just throw people and resources at the war until the south was worn down. He thought the only way the south could win would be to go all in on keeping control of the lower Mississippi River. Keep control of that and you could force an agreed separation.

He was convinced southern leadership would figure that out and all of the real fighting would be for control of the lower river. They didn’t and the south lost.
This post was edited on 7/24/25 at 7:47 am
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