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re: We all exist. The question isn’t “How?”. It’s “Why?”
Posted on 5/26/23 at 4:42 pm to Displaced
Posted on 5/26/23 at 4:42 pm to Displaced
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But if you happen to not want that relationship, you are doomed to suffer for all eternity?
Pretty shitty "choice" he gives you, huh?
It's why Christians focus so much on humans being innately evil, broken creatures who deserve eternal torture and punishment from the moment of birth irrespective of their actions, saved from this fate only by the amazing grace and love of their deity. Without this as a starting point, it's fairly obvious to any rational person that a deity that would excruciatingly torture someone for all eternity simply for not believing in them can only be described as evil.
Religions that treat eternal bliss as a goal to be earned (Valhalla, Nirvana, etc) which then mete out eternal punishment if truly earned (or not at all), sidestep this issue. Even Judaism and Islam have some middle grounds and/or eventual release. Christianity is unusual, if not unique, in the dichotomy it creates between eternal bliss and eternal suffering and how one is subjected to either.
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Posted on 5/26/23 at 4:44 pm to Rabby
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This post was edited on 5/27/23 at 1:12 pm
Posted on 5/26/23 at 4:49 pm to theunknownknight
The rose petal floats on water.
The kingfisher flashes above the pond.
Life and beauty swirl in the midst of death
The kingfisher flashes above the pond.
Life and beauty swirl in the midst of death
Posted on 5/26/23 at 5:02 pm to theunknownknight
Or, the origin of our being isn’t sentient and there’s no meaning but what we make it.
Sit back, relax, and enjoy that you’re the universe experiencing itself. Find beauty in the fact that intelligence evolved in social animals, so we get to experience friendship, camaraderie, and love.
What a glorious accident.
Sit back, relax, and enjoy that you’re the universe experiencing itself. Find beauty in the fact that intelligence evolved in social animals, so we get to experience friendship, camaraderie, and love.
What a glorious accident.
Posted on 5/26/23 at 5:10 pm to theunknownknight
Anna Frebel is an astronomer and astrophysicist at MIT. This is good if you have time and like complex analysis of how we got here. She makes it "relatively" easy to comprehend what's going on here.
Anna Frebel - "Origins of the Universe" podcast with Lex F
Anna Frebel - "Origins of the Universe" podcast with Lex F
Posted on 5/26/23 at 5:12 pm to Richard Grayson
you posted a lot of scripture and still failed to post a single one that answers the why.
Posted on 5/26/23 at 5:17 pm to Gaston
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Life is absurd, all of it…from the bacteria to the whale…it’s simply an absurdity.
Posted on 5/26/23 at 8:45 pm to Displaced
Yes. He created you to have a relationship with him. Yet he gives you the choice because it would me meaningless if you were forced. Your suffering will just be eternal spiritual separation from him. It is only a crappy choice for those who reject his purpose for creating you in the first place.
This post was edited on 5/26/23 at 8:46 pm
Posted on 5/26/23 at 8:47 pm to theunknownknight
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Why do we exist at all?
Look at all the critters on the Earth
Sleepin
Eatin
Sexin
Poopin
Peein
Seems pretty obvious to me.
Posted on 5/26/23 at 8:47 pm to theunknownknight
Sex
Posted on 5/26/23 at 9:06 pm to mattz1122
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Want does are Bible say
If Adam had discovered masturbation we'd all be living in paradise right now.
Posted on 5/26/23 at 9:15 pm to theunknownknight
Posted on 5/26/23 at 9:27 pm to Dirk Dawgler
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Your suffering will just be eternal spiritual separation from him.
Weird, Christians seem to spend a lot of time talking about the eternal physical torture aspect. There was a thread a few days ago with a poster gleefully describing some deceased political opponent in hell being “arse raped by demons.”
So is it the mainline Christian position that I’ll just be super sad in the afterlife because I’ll be separated from the Christian deity, and not that I’ll be tortured by demons and/or consumed by excruciating fire for literal eternity?
Posted on 5/26/23 at 9:33 pm to Joshjrn
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So is it the mainline Christian position that I’ll just be super sad in the afterlife because I’ll be separated from the Christian deity
Yes.
You will meet Him. You will understand and feel and be with all that is love and truth and justice and good. You feel that amazing presence. You will know the Truth that you always have known but chose to deny for your own selfishness. And then you will be torn from that amazing perfect presence for eternity because of your own decisions never to feel it again. That is hell. The complete separation from God for eternity and forced to live with the consequences of your own actions.
This post was edited on 5/26/23 at 9:35 pm
Posted on 5/26/23 at 9:35 pm to Richard Grayson
Wherever you go, there you are.
Posted on 5/26/23 at 9:35 pm to theunknownknight
Because as an evolved species, we're meant to eat, shite, breed and sleep. The ultimate purpose of being a human is to reproduce as much as possible, our bodies naturally want us to and will drive us into that direction. The more offspring we have, the better chance our bloodline has with survival. That's why we as men will do anything to get laid with women. Sex is what we are primed to prioritize over any other function. Sex has many health benefits, including lower stress levels and better cardiovascular health. It's one reason why I believe prostitution should be legalized and regulated
This post was edited on 5/26/23 at 9:44 pm
Posted on 5/26/23 at 9:38 pm to Joshjrn
It is unfortunate how carelessly believers are in relating the teachings of eternal separation from God. A biblical understanding is that the Lake of Fire (e.g. Hell) was created for Satan and those fallen angles who followed him in rebellion against God.
“Then He will also say to those on the left hand, ‘Depart from Me, you cursed, into the everlasting fire prepared for the devil and his angels…” Matthew 25:41
It is the desire of God that all repent of their sin and are forgiven and reconciled to Him.
The Lord is not slack concerning His promise, as some count slackness, but is longsuffering toward us, not willing that any should perish but that all should come to repentance. 2 Peter 3:9
“Then He will also say to those on the left hand, ‘Depart from Me, you cursed, into the everlasting fire prepared for the devil and his angels…” Matthew 25:41
It is the desire of God that all repent of their sin and are forgiven and reconciled to Him.
The Lord is not slack concerning His promise, as some count slackness, but is longsuffering toward us, not willing that any should perish but that all should come to repentance. 2 Peter 3:9
Posted on 5/26/23 at 9:46 pm to SneezyBeltranIsHere
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That is so fricking stupid. A Universe from Nothing
Imagine thinking a single cell evolved into a Tyrannosaurus Rex
Posted on 5/26/23 at 9:50 pm to WaydownSouth
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Imagine thinking a single cell evolved into a Tyrannosaurus Rex
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WaydownSouth
Posted on 5/26/23 at 9:56 pm to theunknownknight
Nothing matters. Nothing is real. Find a way to stack a billion.
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