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re: Washington Senator states nurses likely play cards all day and angers a lot of nurses
Posted on 4/20/19 at 10:10 am to lsunurse
Posted on 4/20/19 at 10:10 am to lsunurse
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I love Zdogg
My ol lady, a nurse, does too. I find myself sitting down with her to watch when I overhear a subject I'm interested in. He brings an insight to subjects that's understandable to someone not in the medical field. 
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Posted on 4/20/19 at 10:11 am to Mizz-SEC
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Would you recommend nursing to kids graduating high school? (I've got two who will soon enough).
Only if they are truly interested in the nursing field. We need more good nurses that do what they do because they truly want to help others. We have enough bad nurses that only went into nursing for the money. Every nurse on this board has likely worked with or knew of a nurse that clearly only does it for the money.
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What is the current pay (with overtime)?
That really is gonna vary depending on many factors. What area of nursing? What area of the country(ex: the South tends to pay nurses poorly compared to the rest of the country)?
Nurses working at the bedside in a hospital are gonna make more than a nurse working in a doctor's office or a school nurse. Usually nurses working in an ER or ICU or OR might make more than a regular bedside nurse. Also...if you work nights you get a shift differential(varies on the hospital..mine pays an additional 18% of your base pay) on top of your hourly base pay.
This post was edited on 4/20/19 at 10:14 am
Posted on 4/20/19 at 10:15 am to Lago Gato
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When y’all are ventilated with a balloon pump, CVVH, and ECMO keeping alive . Hopefully the nurse isn’t exhausted cause they did 2-3 12 hr shifts back to back shifts .
2-3 12 hours shifts back to back!?!? Oh the horror.
Posted on 4/20/19 at 10:15 am to lsunurse
icu nurses are in high demand where I practice currently. big sign-on bonuses, student loan support, and really good hourly pay.
its hard work though, and you need to be on your game. a great ICU/ER nurse really improves patient outcomes and protects the patient.
I help with nursing orientation at my hospital and always give a little talk about how nurses are the last line of defense for medication errors. difference between a good and so-so nurse is night and day.
its hard work though, and you need to be on your game. a great ICU/ER nurse really improves patient outcomes and protects the patient.
I help with nursing orientation at my hospital and always give a little talk about how nurses are the last line of defense for medication errors. difference between a good and so-so nurse is night and day.
Posted on 4/20/19 at 10:16 am to MrSpock
3 12h shifts in a row when the shifts are mentally, physically, and emotionally exhausting takes its toll.
Posted on 4/20/19 at 10:16 am to lsunurse
Great. One more thing for nurses to whine about.
ETA: I know nurses have a tough job; I’m nor saying they don’t. Some of them are just whiny.
ETA: I know nurses have a tough job; I’m nor saying they don’t. Some of them are just whiny.
This post was edited on 4/20/19 at 10:17 am
Posted on 4/20/19 at 10:19 am to lsunurse
Thanks. I've always thought nursing was a reasonable return on investment as a career for young people in an industry that will never become obsolete, outsourced or eaten alive by illegals.
Posted on 4/20/19 at 10:21 am to L S Usetheforce
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I’m also board certified ya dumbass.
Board certified in what?
Posted on 4/20/19 at 10:21 am to Lago Gato
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When y’all are ventilated with a balloon pump, CVVH, and ECMO keeping alive . Hopefully the nurse isn’t exhausted cause they did 2-3 12 hr shifts back to back shifts .
Ah, an ICU player- welcome. Who do you think places that balloon pump, cannulates for VA or VV ECMO, or directs filtration rates on continuous dialysis?
Hint: not the nursing staff...
Better yet, I have never walked into a resuscitation in that oh-so-tough-ICU-nurses domain and stated "Who is running this code?" and had the answer be some nurse.
Posted on 4/20/19 at 10:23 am to DeusVultMachina
lmao frick off, you literally begged and pleaded for the burden of your pager. quit and go into industry, pussy
Posted on 4/20/19 at 10:23 am to windshieldman
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Uh yea we get it all the time, especially on the local level. Most of us just don’t care.
That's my point. No sensible person would care what a fireman does on his shift, if there isn't anything to do. They are there for when there is an emergency. The issue with hospitals is, hospital tend to reduce staffing if the census drops. Then the census goes up, and they don't increase the staffing, because the bean counters don't want the additional payroll responsibilities. The support staff, nurses, etc are worked to the point where they don't even have time to eat. I, myself, gave up hospital work when I showed up for a 12 hour shift, handed a stack of work that looked like a mid-sized city's phone book, and pagers for 2 units and the ER! Knowing all of this could not possibly get done, they still had the audacity to call me in and question me over it. My department head took a demotion because she didn't want to be held responsible for the under staffing and what she thought, would be an eventual lawsuit. At one point, the entire nursing staff of the pulmonary floor quit due to under staffing. The hospital brought in temp nurses from nursing homes. Talk about a drop in the quality of healthcare!
Posted on 4/20/19 at 10:29 am to Tiguar
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3 12h shifts in a row when the shifts are mentally, physically, and emotionally exhausting takes its toll.
Especially when that 12 hours is closer to 13-14 hours if you had a really busy shift and have to stay over to do all your charting.
I don't think people truly understand and factor in the mentally and emotionally exhausting part of it. Imagine caring for a child you know was abused by their parents for 12 hours. CPS hasn't taken custody yet of the child so parents are still allowed to be at the bedside. But as the nurse...you can't confront these monsters and tell them what you really think of them. Instead...you have to bite your tongue for 12 hours and just focus on caring for the child. And not snap back "because you fricking broke his arm" when the parent asks you over and over why is the child crying so much. On top of that...you still have 4 other patients to care for. And two of them don't have parents staying with them so you need to give them some extra attention at times (especially when they are crying for their mom and dad). One of the other ones you are caring for is a special needs child and just pulls at your heart everytime you enter the room.
You do this for 12 hours and maybe get a brief break during this time. And then go home at 7 am(which is actually closer to 8am). You actually get home closer to 9 am and even though you are really tired...you need an hour just to decompress from how emotionally drained you feel. Then you sleep, get up...and repeat all that for another 12 hours...then another 12 hours.
Much different than some other standard 12 hour shift jobs (ex: plant work).
Posted on 4/20/19 at 10:29 am to Mizz-SEC
I’m scheduled 4-10 hr days / week . It’s usually 12 hrs tho. Most weeks I’m called back out and work another 6-7 hours on top of the 12 . The weeks I’m not called in I pick up another shift . Love the OT.
Posted on 4/20/19 at 10:37 am to lsunurse
It was a pretty terrible comment.
Nurses are a lot of things, complainers, know-it-alls, attention whores, whores, but slacking off at work really isn't an option from what I've seen.
My sisters are both nurses and the 5 days a week they are off work they are on FB 90% of the time. However you can tell when they are at work because they don't any new shite unlike every 30min when at home.
Nurses are a lot of things, complainers, know-it-alls, attention whores, whores, but slacking off at work really isn't an option from what I've seen.
My sisters are both nurses and the 5 days a week they are off work they are on FB 90% of the time. However you can tell when they are at work because they don't any new shite unlike every 30min when at home.
Posted on 4/20/19 at 10:37 am to DeusVultMachina
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Better yet, I have never walked into a resuscitation in that oh-so-tough-ICU-nurses domain and stated "Who is running this code?" and had the answer be some nurse.
You need to get out more. I have personally seen a physician leave the room DURING a code to get some juice. Said his sugar was low. This was at a rural hospital.
When I was in the Navy, our clinic nurse had to constantly correct our internal med doc on what crash cart drugs to push during a surprise mock code.
Not a code, but I had to explain to a resident why his ventilator weaning orders weren't kosher. He told me to stand by, paged me again, taking me away from carrying out legitimate orders, to meet him in the unit, to explain it all again to another resident. Neither could understand why there orders were wrong, so the on-call pulmonologist got woken up at 3am to explain it to them for the 3rd time.
This post was edited on 4/20/19 at 10:39 am
Posted on 4/20/19 at 10:38 am to greygoose
I left the bedside because they changed our staffing ratios. For pediatrics...usually 4:1 is considered a safe staffing ratio. They started telling us that we would occasionally take a 5th patient if we were short. This turned into us being expected to always go up to 5 patients. Then they took away our CNAs for many of our shifts so we had 5 patients and had no one to help with basic tasks (taking vitals, bed changes, bringing juice, etc). We had to do all of it. It was too much. I left the bedside cause I was getting burnt out on it. I also felt like this would lead to some really bad sentinel event happening on our floor and I didn't want to be around when that happened and lose my nursing license.
I still work in the same hospital but as an Infection Control nurse. My job is mostly an office job (M-F 8-4:30). I still do rounds on my assigned floors and always feel bad when I go to my old peds floor and talk to the nurses cause it still sucks and I feel like I was lucky to escape. I don't think I could ever go back to the bedside. I had reached a point where I was just done with it. I do miss my coworkers and caring for the kids though. But I don't miss feeling like I didn't have time to properly do my job.
ETA: Also...my parents lost their home in the 2016 BR flood while all that was going on. So I was having to deal with helping them out and figure out what to do to relocate them near me in AZ. Was also going back to school to get my BSN. And doing fertility treatments(which we had to pause from all the stress). I was on the verge of a nervous breakdown cause it was just too much on my shoulders. So changed one of the stressors...my job.
I still work in the same hospital but as an Infection Control nurse. My job is mostly an office job (M-F 8-4:30). I still do rounds on my assigned floors and always feel bad when I go to my old peds floor and talk to the nurses cause it still sucks and I feel like I was lucky to escape. I don't think I could ever go back to the bedside. I had reached a point where I was just done with it. I do miss my coworkers and caring for the kids though. But I don't miss feeling like I didn't have time to properly do my job.
ETA: Also...my parents lost their home in the 2016 BR flood while all that was going on. So I was having to deal with helping them out and figure out what to do to relocate them near me in AZ. Was also going back to school to get my BSN. And doing fertility treatments(which we had to pause from all the stress). I was on the verge of a nervous breakdown cause it was just too much on my shoulders. So changed one of the stressors...my job.
This post was edited on 4/20/19 at 10:44 am
Posted on 4/20/19 at 10:48 am to DJ3K
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Nurses do nothing important other than what the doctor, who had 8 plus years of Medical training/education, tells them to do.
Posted on 4/20/19 at 10:50 am to hottub
quote:That's funny, some folks have no clue what goes on in a hospital.
Other doctors
"Other doctors" he said
Posted on 4/20/19 at 10:55 am to greygoose
greygoose
Oh I agree, I very seldom see nurses being able to even eat at the ER we bring our patients to. They are definitely short staffed at most hospitals.
Oh I agree, I very seldom see nurses being able to even eat at the ER we bring our patients to. They are definitely short staffed at most hospitals.
Posted on 4/20/19 at 10:56 am to greygoose
Lol. Fill in the blank Nursing anecdote about some fictitious dumb doctor.
You and I both know that one can draw two bell curves with knowledge, ability, training and outcomes but I don't think you would like to see which curve is on the far left...
You're all out of straws, but you're still grasping at them. Would you like a verbal order for more?
You and I both know that one can draw two bell curves with knowledge, ability, training and outcomes but I don't think you would like to see which curve is on the far left...
You're all out of straws, but you're still grasping at them. Would you like a verbal order for more?
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