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re: Was life better before the internet?
Posted on 6/7/20 at 7:48 am to Bestbank Tiger
Posted on 6/7/20 at 7:48 am to Bestbank Tiger
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We would make shadow creatures when the movie ended.
Tiger! No recess for you today!
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Posted on 6/7/20 at 8:01 am to efrad
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Really, we just need to delete social media tied to our real identities.
I don't have Twitter or Instagram.
I have LinkedIn unsearchable and all my name and my company names are all fictional. I figure if I need them to be real on the future (ie a job search) it's easier to change everything back than to rebuild my resume and network from scratch.
I'd dump Facebook but it's the only place where I can maintain contact with some people, and others I know IRL use it to announce events. My location isn't on there and I haven't done a status update since 2015.
Posted on 6/7/20 at 8:09 am to Mithridates6
I'm old enough to remember USING Telnet.
Posted on 6/7/20 at 8:12 am to Pepperoni
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Tiger! No recess for you today!
Yeah, the teachers hated it. Not sure why.
We would also just stick our hands up. I can at least see not liking that (lack of creativity).
Posted on 6/7/20 at 8:14 am to Mithridates6
Unequivocally yes. Access to porn is the only thing the internet has improved. PERIOD.
Posted on 6/7/20 at 8:15 am to Lonnie Utah
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I'm old enough to remember USING Telnet.
Unix was awesome.
I miss IRC. That was a lot of fun.
Posted on 6/7/20 at 8:15 am to FearTheFish
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Social media will be the downfall of society
LOL no it wont
Posted on 6/7/20 at 8:22 am to Byrdybyrd05
Heh, you were lucky to have a TV. We usually went with:
and the film reel would go haywire a few times.
The best years of my life were before internet or cell phones, so at the least there is nothing about them that is necessary for happiness.
and the film reel would go haywire a few times.
The best years of my life were before internet or cell phones, so at the least there is nothing about them that is necessary for happiness.
Posted on 6/7/20 at 8:25 am to Mithridates6
It was better before in the sense it was very much harder for someone to widely disseminate obviously false information and have a large number of people firmly believe it. Alex Jones is one good example.
No doubt it vastly improved business communications processes and productivity and spawned consumer e-commerce, for better and worse as vast numbers of local mom and pop stores died.
Better today to be able to research one's own medical conditions, hobby interests or entertaining videos. There are many examples of how good truthful information on the web is a positive in modern day life.
Zuckerberg tried to advance some years ago the notion that no one should have an expectation of internet privacy, while Google has captured and steers the majority of search and advertising revenue. Both companies are by any reasonable definition monopolistic.
But the most pernicious effect has been the polarization of the political parties to their fringe bases where lowest common denominator thinking rules. Moderation, reason and logical problem solving and governance is more or less a quaint notion of the past.
The health and continuance of the Great American Experiment is not guaranteed and I fear another twenty or so years of sharply partisan division at all costs may end the greatest constitutional Republic to so far inhabit planet earth.
Entering my 8th decade of life where politics has long been one of my favorite spectator sports, this is what I observe and hope you younger folks can avoid.
No doubt it vastly improved business communications processes and productivity and spawned consumer e-commerce, for better and worse as vast numbers of local mom and pop stores died.
Better today to be able to research one's own medical conditions, hobby interests or entertaining videos. There are many examples of how good truthful information on the web is a positive in modern day life.
Zuckerberg tried to advance some years ago the notion that no one should have an expectation of internet privacy, while Google has captured and steers the majority of search and advertising revenue. Both companies are by any reasonable definition monopolistic.
But the most pernicious effect has been the polarization of the political parties to their fringe bases where lowest common denominator thinking rules. Moderation, reason and logical problem solving and governance is more or less a quaint notion of the past.
The health and continuance of the Great American Experiment is not guaranteed and I fear another twenty or so years of sharply partisan division at all costs may end the greatest constitutional Republic to so far inhabit planet earth.
Entering my 8th decade of life where politics has long been one of my favorite spectator sports, this is what I observe and hope you younger folks can avoid.
Posted on 6/7/20 at 8:57 am to Mithridates6
While I'm young (20s) and have had the internet around virtually my entire life, I fully believe it's mainly perception. Dumbasses like these have always existed, they just have a place to be loud and obnoxious even moreso now. They were just isolated and laughed at into corners in the past, but it's worth noting that political correctness, SJW culture, cancel culture etc. have twisted that perception even moreso.
Think of it like this: There are around 330 million people in America today. Twitter users are just a small fraction of that. Active posters on twitter are an even smaller fraction of that by a significant margin. In other words, the loudest, most obnoxious groups we hear from aren't even close to the majority of America.
Think of it like this: There are around 330 million people in America today. Twitter users are just a small fraction of that. Active posters on twitter are an even smaller fraction of that by a significant margin. In other words, the loudest, most obnoxious groups we hear from aren't even close to the majority of America.
Posted on 6/7/20 at 9:04 am to Mithridates6
The 1980s was the apex of human civilization.
Posted on 6/7/20 at 9:08 am to Darth_Vader
The knee jerk reaction is to say yes but knee jerk reactions are the main flaw of the internet to begin with. Overall I'd it hasn't moved the scales either way. There are a lot of yins and a lot of yangs but they pretty much cancel each other out.
Posted on 6/7/20 at 10:04 am to Mithridates6
Hmmmm.
Well, the internet is truly a blessing. I'm 55. It has allowed me to "meet" others that have mutual or simular interests.
Resources are available with a convenience that didn't exit before except in academia.
Social media is where it started going to shite.
As usual ppl believe everything they read on social and don't think for themselves. Same as with regular media
Well, the internet is truly a blessing. I'm 55. It has allowed me to "meet" others that have mutual or simular interests.
Resources are available with a convenience that didn't exit before except in academia.
Social media is where it started going to shite.
As usual ppl believe everything they read on social and don't think for themselves. Same as with regular media
This post was edited on 6/7/20 at 11:46 am
Posted on 6/7/20 at 10:05 am to Mithridates6
Absolutely it was. Not "the Internet," necessarily, but the past decade of social media, there is zero doubt.
Posted on 6/7/20 at 10:23 am to Mr Breeze
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It was better before in the sense it was very much harder for someone to widely disseminate obviously false information and have a large number of people firmly believe it. Alex Jones is one good example.
Solid post but 1st line I’d offer a counter example - with exception that Walter was always cloaked in an air of respectability
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It’s not that journalism was once pure but is now sordid; it’s that even the most trusted figures of the past were as crooked in their bias as the worst TV screamers of our own day. As with Cronkite, the real sin is not that his successors are biased, but that they pretend not to be.
LINK https://www.commentarymagazine.com
Posted on 6/7/20 at 11:22 am to Mithridates6
yes
Posted on 6/7/20 at 11:26 am to Mithridates6
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now we have to to know everything about every person
You don't have to do anything. You and others are addicted.
Blaming the internet is like blaming cigarettes for lung disease or alcohol for alcoholism. It's not the problem, it's how it's used for whatever purpose.
This post was edited on 6/7/20 at 11:28 am
Posted on 6/7/20 at 11:26 am to Mithridates6
Yes and no.
Posted on 6/7/20 at 11:40 am to TxTiger82
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Yes and no. The internet brought a lot of positives, including easy access to information, connection with far-flung social ties, the ability to find online community, reduced transaction costs, increased capacity for data storage, increased ability to collaborate across time and space, and opportunities to engage in political and/or civic discussion.
But there are downsides to all of these points, including the prevalence of misinformation, the erosion of face-to-face connection and local community, economic threats to small businesses, threats to privacy, the loss of leisure time due to work-from-home demands, and political polarization resulting from contentious conversations.
I was a child of the 70's & 80's and that's my take on it as well.
A great aspect of the internet is that of people with similar interests in positive things (cooking, gardening, gaming, wood-working, etc) can communicate and learn from each other.
The shitty aspect of the internet is that of assholes wanting to find other assholes to collaborate with on doing a-hole things (looking at you, ANTIFA).
Sadly, you can't have one without the other because assholes will always come along and shite on things, which brings us to the truism of Team America...
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Pussies don't like dicks, because pussies get fricked by dicks. But dicks also frick assholes — assholes who just want to shite on everything. Pussies may think they can deal with assholes their way. But the only thing that can frick an a-hole is a dick, with some balls. The problem with dicks is that sometimes they frick too much or frick when it isn't appropriate — and it takes a pussy to show them that. But sometimes, pussies get so full of shite that they become assholes themselves... because pussies are only an inch and a half away from assholes. I don't know much in this crazy, crazy world, but I do know that if you don't let us frick this a-hole, we're going to have our dicks and pussies all covered in shite!
...which I found on the internet.
This post was edited on 6/7/20 at 11:41 am
Posted on 6/7/20 at 12:09 pm to Goldrush25
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Blaming the internet is like blaming cigarettes for lung disease or alcohol for alcoholism
Or guns for violence.
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