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re: Was Fired: Employer wants me to give password to work phone.
Posted on 2/18/16 at 10:29 pm to steeltiger17
Posted on 2/18/16 at 10:29 pm to steeltiger17
I hate this BS of "its a work phone" and the company is entitled to everything.
It's not like the OP in this case took the company van to the beach for a family vacation and charged everything to the company credit card.
He's concerned about some data on a phone. This Costs the company zero. Zero.
What's next? Your boss will demand to know what you and a coworker chit chatted about in the parking lot after work and says he's entitled to know because yall were on company property when you were talking??
It's not like the OP in this case took the company van to the beach for a family vacation and charged everything to the company credit card.
He's concerned about some data on a phone. This Costs the company zero. Zero.
What's next? Your boss will demand to know what you and a coworker chit chatted about in the parking lot after work and says he's entitled to know because yall were on company property when you were talking??
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Posted on 2/18/16 at 10:29 pm to steeltiger17
Any action by the company (criminal charges, court orders, law suit) will show up on a background search by any prospective employer.
This will count heavily against you. It will follow you forever. Nothing ever gets erased off the internet.
Start thinking with your brain and not your emotions.....
This will count heavily against you. It will follow you forever. Nothing ever gets erased off the internet.
Start thinking with your brain and not your emotions.....
Posted on 2/18/16 at 10:29 pm to rebeloke
Posted on 2/18/16 at 10:37 pm to steeltiger17
Just tell them you forgot it. They can't prove you didn't, problem solved.
Posted on 2/18/16 at 10:59 pm to steeltiger17
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but in the apple case, the employer gave permission to the FBI to use any means necessary to access the contents his company's locked phone, so i figured i could just ride this out in the same way.
since apple wont let the employer access the phone in that case
phone is an iphone 5c
ill just say i forgot the password. they cant prove otherwise
Are you a cop? I ask because that's really dumb.
You are comparing this to the terrorist's phone but a more accurate comparison would be to make the terrorist give up the password. Yes, he would have to give up the password, but he is dead and obviously doesn't care about breaking rules.
So, the employer gave the FBI permission to unlock the phone. They are more than welcome to unlock the phone. Nobody is telling them they can't unlock the phone. The FBI is free to write software or do whatever they need to do to get into the phone!
Posted on 2/18/16 at 11:00 pm to steeltiger17
The question is: what do you have on there that you're so afraid for them to see?
I think we know the answer.
I think we know the answer.
Posted on 2/18/16 at 11:01 pm to steeltiger17
Tell them your password is January 1, 1970.
Posted on 2/19/16 at 12:00 am to steeltiger17
Don't give them password. It's your phone even if they own it. Tell them to eat a dick
Posted on 2/19/16 at 12:06 am to oVo
quote:So many didn't though
ISWYDT
Posted on 2/19/16 at 12:49 am to steeltiger17
I'm late to this debate but I have some thoughts.
-There are very few things anyone can "make" you do. Try and get money out of someone after you have won a judgement against them and you'll see.
-Unless you developed some groundbreaking code/software for this company on that phone I doubt they would go through the trouble of trying to get a lawyer and courts involved.
-If they fail the passcode 10 times the phone will be reset and all data erased and it would be usable again provided they have the apple ID associated with it for reactivation.
The company property (the phone itself) has been turned in.
Claiming the contents of the phone itself are the company's "intellectual property" that they are being deprived of and are incurring damages would be difficult to prove IMHO.
As far as burning bridges down, everyone has a story about parting ways with an employer and vice versa. It is always best to leave on good terms but sometimes it is unavoidable. If things didn't end badly, they would never end...
-There are very few things anyone can "make" you do. Try and get money out of someone after you have won a judgement against them and you'll see.
-Unless you developed some groundbreaking code/software for this company on that phone I doubt they would go through the trouble of trying to get a lawyer and courts involved.
-If they fail the passcode 10 times the phone will be reset and all data erased and it would be usable again provided they have the apple ID associated with it for reactivation.
The company property (the phone itself) has been turned in.
Claiming the contents of the phone itself are the company's "intellectual property" that they are being deprived of and are incurring damages would be difficult to prove IMHO.
As far as burning bridges down, everyone has a story about parting ways with an employer and vice versa. It is always best to leave on good terms but sometimes it is unavoidable. If things didn't end badly, they would never end...
Posted on 2/19/16 at 2:15 am to steeltiger17
Tell them your password is January 1, 1970.
Posted on 2/19/16 at 3:28 am to steeltiger17
Logon to find my iphone and wipe the phone remotely retard
Posted on 2/19/16 at 4:00 am to steeltiger17
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Is this an invasion of my privacy?
Yes. Offer to sell it to them.
Posted on 2/19/16 at 6:18 am to steeltiger17
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Steeltiger17
How old are you bro?? It's their phone. Not very smart to burn bridges with former employers. Some people...
Posted on 2/19/16 at 6:28 am to steeltiger17
Tell him to kick rocks. He would spend 5 times more money in court instead of buying a new one.
I just wouldnt answer calls
I just wouldnt answer calls
Posted on 2/19/16 at 6:45 am to PrivatePublic
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Their IT dept must suck
Because they can't break practically unbreakable encryption?
OK, then
They sucked because they don't have a MDM.
Posted on 2/19/16 at 7:15 am to Tiger Vision
They can't make you give up your password. They can get pissed and threaten you but that's about it . they are correct in that it's their phone and they own the contents. However, it is there fault they can't access it. Maybe they will invest in MDM like previous poster said
This post was edited on 2/19/16 at 7:16 am
Posted on 2/19/16 at 7:28 am to dgnx6
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The phone is a damn paper weight without the password. So you not giving up the information renders the phone useless.
No it doesn't. You can wipe a phone without knowing the passcode.
Posted on 2/19/16 at 8:29 am to steeltiger17
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Is this an invasion of my privacy?
I say no, but I'd be a total dick about it if they fired me.
Posted on 2/19/16 at 8:36 am to ConfusedHawgInMO
If they wanted the phone unlocked, they should have had you unlock it and turn it in before they fired you.
Why do they want the passcode? Is it a case where Find my iPhone was still on when they reset it, the thing was activation locked? If so, they can get Apple to remove the activation lock without your assistance.
Crappy IT/HR procedure at the company
Why do they want the passcode? Is it a case where Find my iPhone was still on when they reset it, the thing was activation locked? If so, they can get Apple to remove the activation lock without your assistance.
Crappy IT/HR procedure at the company
This post was edited on 2/19/16 at 8:37 am
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