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re: Was FEMA response during Katrina worse or better than Helene?

Posted on 10/7/24 at 8:11 pm to
Posted by BeepBopBoop
Northshore
Member since Dec 2023
1139 posts
Posted on 10/7/24 at 8:11 pm to
It’s the government, all terrible
Posted by rmnldr
Member since Oct 2013
39841 posts
Posted on 10/7/24 at 8:13 pm to
Helene. They got caught with their pants down.

Katrina was a 9/11 level of disaster.
Posted by gizmothepug
Louisiana
Member since Apr 2015
8507 posts
Posted on 10/7/24 at 8:14 pm to
IMO worse for those of us that lived through it. It was all about NO, which was what most in a pre social media world focused on. Nobody cared about the Mississippi Gulf Coast or the NorthShore. The thing about going through a natural disaster like that is especially after Katrina is you don’t know how bad it really is. Back in those days I worked for a tree company that was contracted with WST and even with Katrina exploding in The Gulf and suddenly coming our way, a local co-op was more prepared than local, state and the Federal Governments.
Posted by arczr2
Iota
Member since Oct 2020
302 posts
Posted on 10/7/24 at 8:15 pm to
If that disaster hit n.o. and the democrat voters best believe would be record response time. That's a fact
Posted by Boston911
Lafayette
Member since Dec 2013
2345 posts
Posted on 10/7/24 at 8:19 pm to
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Not sure how anyone could really say unless they were in the shite for both. And I’d be surprised if that person posts here.
That person posts here,,,,I brought the first medical helos to NOLA on the Tuesday morning and stayed there for weeks,,,,,I arrived in SC last Friday and made it to Asheville on Saturday. I will say both sucked equally. You would think with all he disaster we have, this agency can figure it out,,,too much bureaucracy,,,during Katina FEMA made us stop flying patients out of hospitals for hours,,,this time we had ambulances sit for days waiting on paperwork and details. And don’t get me started about organization, right hand vs left hand. We had ambulances finish task and sit and wait for 10-12hrs before anyone could figure out to do with them next. Pathetic.
This post was edited on 10/7/24 at 8:21 pm
Posted by RFK
Mar-a-Lago
Member since May 2012
2689 posts
Posted on 10/7/24 at 8:19 pm to
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When you have hood rats in an urban area shooting at rescue helicopters, you tend to get a swarm response that isolated hillbillies who aren’t shooting won’t get.
This was proven false years ago.

You are fake news.
Posted by wm72
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2010
9030 posts
Posted on 10/7/24 at 8:20 pm to
In South Alabama after Hurricane Ivan in 2004:

I've often thought that listening to every single person you talked to complain constantly about FEMA and why can't the government do this or that was almost as bad as the 4 weeks without power.

I think social media and the current politicized environment is the only difference.

This post was edited on 10/7/24 at 8:29 pm
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
53509 posts
Posted on 10/7/24 at 8:21 pm to
Idk what it was like in New Orleans, but there’s a lot of self sufficiency on display in WNC. People are doing what they can for themselves.
Posted by TSmith
New Orleans, La.
Member since Jan 2004
2237 posts
Posted on 10/7/24 at 8:27 pm to
Katrina was much worse. Those that caused the Katrina disaster were in charge of the response (feds). Pre-Katrina levee system construction was a criminal act. But the long term investment after Katrina was excellent with levee construction, making New Orleans probably the singular coastal city in all of North America that can handle a typical hurricane storm surge.

If Katrina happens today with the current risk reduction system, we all go back to work and go about our lives when the power comes back on.
Posted by kciDAtaE
Member since Apr 2017
17448 posts
Posted on 10/7/24 at 8:29 pm to
So FEMA learned nothing
Posted by meeple
Carcassonne
Member since May 2011
10812 posts
Posted on 10/7/24 at 8:29 pm to
Brownie did a heck of a job!

At least that’s what George Bush said.
This post was edited on 10/7/24 at 8:31 pm
Posted by gizmothepug
Louisiana
Member since Apr 2015
8507 posts
Posted on 10/7/24 at 8:32 pm to
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Idk what it was like in New Orleans, but there’s a lot of self sufficiency on display in WNC.


New Orleans got fricked because of the lazy, I don’t give a frick attitude. That’s what happens when you don’t keep up man made levees or waste the money that should’ve went towards those man made levees. A lot of self sufficiency was happening north of the lake and in Mississippi. You want the truth? A lot of the people that stayed in NO had been relying on the government for generations, the same government that provided just enough to them to be better than a 3rd World country. Then those same people were surprised when the government left them for dead.
Posted by Pikes Peak Tiger
Colorado Springs
Member since Jun 2023
9440 posts
Posted on 10/7/24 at 8:33 pm to
quote:

Was FEMA response during Katrina worse or better than Helene?


FEMA is federal government bureaucracy and behaves as such.

No one should rely on them for anything and no one should be the least bit shocked when they respond in the most arse backwards and inefficient way possible.
Posted by Psych23
Member since Aug 2024
731 posts
Posted on 10/7/24 at 8:34 pm to
FEMA is a governmental bureaucracy. It's actually impossible for them to be effective at anything other than creating fake jobs for losers.
Posted by TSmith
New Orleans, La.
Member since Jan 2004
2237 posts
Posted on 10/7/24 at 8:35 pm to
You’re an idiot. But I’m sure you already know that.
Posted by nicholastiger
Member since Jan 2004
53879 posts
Posted on 10/7/24 at 8:37 pm to
Katrina showed how unprepared fema was in responding to a natural disaster

On top of that blanco and nagin were no help at the state and local level

It’s ashame all levels of govt still don’t have a clue on how to manage a natural disaster

It took grassroots organizations to organize and provide the assistance that desperate citizens need in desperate times

Posted by jrodLSUke
Premium
Member since Jan 2011
25739 posts
Posted on 10/7/24 at 8:40 pm to
LA had a Democrat Gov, Nola had a Democrat mayor, and Kanye blamed W.
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
39489 posts
Posted on 10/7/24 at 8:41 pm to
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This was proven false years ago.

You are fake news.


They absolutely shot at everything flying, floating or fricking doing whatever in NOLA the day after Katrina hit.
Posted by gizmothepug
Louisiana
Member since Apr 2015
8507 posts
Posted on 10/7/24 at 9:13 pm to
quote:

You’re an idiot. But I’m sure you already know that.


For telling the truth? Man made structures to keep out the surge failed, is that not what happened? A lot of poor people stayed and died because the government wasn’t there to magically show up and rescue them, is that not what happened?
Posted by Dixie2023
Member since Mar 2023
4598 posts
Posted on 10/7/24 at 9:20 pm to
I dunno. The “landmass” affected by Katrina didn’t get much attention. We know the story.
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