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re: War breaking out in South America as early as tomorrow?!?
Posted on 12/3/23 at 11:46 am to kingbob
Posted on 12/3/23 at 11:46 am to kingbob
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The reason this is happening now is Venezuela’s economy has collapsed. The government needs an external war to unite the disgruntled population, and annexing a bunch of lightly populated, oil rich territory would help the failed socialist government tremendously.
Socialism cannot sustain itself.
Posted on 12/3/23 at 11:50 am to Papoo63
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Bepared
I’ve got my camouflage and dry foods. What do I need to do next?
Posted on 12/3/23 at 12:02 pm to kingbob
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Basically, South America is the opposite of the Middle East. The entire region is united under the same religion (Catholicism), and the overwhelming majority speak one of two languages (Portuguese or Spanish). The borders weren’t drawn by the British, Ottomans, or Russians to purposefully pit tribes against each other to be more easily exploited, so the borders actually make sense. Most countries in South America have significant natural features (raging rivers, massive mountain ranges, dense jungles) that make their borders extremely defensible. There’s not a ton of oil rich countries, pretty much just Venezuela and Guyana, with Brazil having some reserves but not enough to be a major exporter. In addition, many nations purposely interbred their disparate tribal and colonial populations in order to create a Mestizo culture, further eroding tribalism and creating greater social unity.
Those are some good points. Particularly the common religion, vs throwing of the yoke of colonialism off yourself vs having it withdrawn after a great European war is interesting.
But I’m still surprised. I know little of the history but I know Gran Columbia existed prior and splintered into Colombia, Peru, Venezuela, and Ecuador. That no ultra nationalist movement got traction to put those pieces together or otherwise dominate their neighbors still seems surprising to me.
Credit really due to Brazil I guess for mostly living and and let live rather than ever trying to go Bismarck Germany or imperial Japan or Ottoman Empire or Russian Empire within their sphere of influence.
Posted on 12/3/23 at 12:36 pm to Jim Rockford
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The worst of these was a war between Paraguay and an alliance of Brazil, Argentina and Uruguay. In the space of 14 months, Paraguay lost up to 90% of its male population.
Posted on 12/3/23 at 12:45 pm to SteelerBravesDawg
Yeah, early Paraguayan history is WILD. Dude thought he was Napoleon and bit off way more than anyone could chew.
Posted on 12/3/23 at 1:13 pm to Darth_Vader
This is a good reason to give more aid to Ukraine.
Posted on 12/3/23 at 1:16 pm to Roll Tide Ravens
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This is a good reason to give more aid to Ukraine.
You are brilliant
Posted on 12/3/23 at 1:49 pm to notiger1997
Out of morbid curiosity, I looked up where Jonestown, Guyana is. It is on the western edge of the country toward the Venezuelan border.
I think San Fran cultists have more legit claim to that area of Guyana than Venezuela.
I think San Fran cultists have more legit claim to that area of Guyana than Venezuela.
Posted on 12/3/23 at 3:20 pm to PrecedentedTimes
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Brazil could annihilate Venezuela
World military power rankings has Brazil at 12th. Venezuela at 52
So yea
Posted on 12/3/23 at 3:38 pm to Darth_Vader
What’s China’s play here?
Posted on 12/3/23 at 4:33 pm to Pikes Peak Tiger
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What’s China’s play here?
Resources…..
Posted on 12/3/23 at 4:41 pm to tigeraddict
That is part of it, I’m sure.
I think that having a three ring circus running around the world is an attempt to open up so many fronts that countries are too overextended to stop them in whatever they want, be it Taiwan or something else.
I think that having a three ring circus running around the world is an attempt to open up so many fronts that countries are too overextended to stop them in whatever they want, be it Taiwan or something else.
Posted on 12/3/23 at 4:42 pm to Pikes Peak Tiger
China has invested heavily in both countries. I don’t know their specific play regarding this dispute.
Guyana has less to offer, but is heavily reliant on Chinese investment, and China has more control and influence over their government.
Guyana has less to offer, but is heavily reliant on Chinese investment, and China has more control and influence over their government.
Posted on 12/3/23 at 4:48 pm to Ghost of Colby
Should I change my FB profile pic from Ukraine to Guyana?
Posted on 12/3/23 at 4:53 pm to kingbob
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Venezuela is about to actually pick a fight with Brazil and the U.S. because Brazil has pledged to assist Guyana, and Exxon Mobil owns the rights to the oil in Guyana.
That won’t end well for Venezuela. Guess they’re tired of communism and need to be introduced to freedom and democracy
Posted on 12/3/23 at 5:30 pm to notiger1997
How will they invade? There’s no road across dense rainforest
They’d have to cross Brazil, and Brazil won’t allow that

They’d have to cross Brazil, and Brazil won’t allow that

Posted on 12/3/23 at 5:33 pm to ned nederlander
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Actually I would rate South America as a pretty peaceful part of the world in terms of inter nation conflict.
Most of the people are from similar backgrounds so not a lot of hate between them I don’t think.
There was never a military coup or dictator they didn’t like down there though. They fight amongst themselves more than anything
Posted on 12/3/23 at 5:47 pm to OweO
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but I need to take some time and read up on politics, because it seems like things down there can have a bigger impact on us than I once thought.
South American politics are radical. They go from full blown communism to right wing dictator to astute libertarian (new president of Argentina) in a hurry.
The pendulum swings wildly there, not much in the way of moderate views.
Posted on 12/3/23 at 9:11 pm to kingbob
Parts Unknown Season 4 episode 3 goes into the history.
The man was nuts and of course a woman was in the middle of it.
The man was nuts and of course a woman was in the middle of it.
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