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re: Walmart manager accuses man of stealing tomato and cop breaks man's leg.
Posted on 4/26/16 at 6:43 pm to ManBearTiger
Posted on 4/26/16 at 6:43 pm to ManBearTiger
Hahaha. You just doubled down on dumb.
If a cop suspects you of commuting a crime and gives a lawfull command, even if you are innocent, if you don't comply you are breaking the law. He absolutely DOES have an obligation to comply. That does NOT mean the cop can just start wailing on you with his night stick.
If a cop suspects you of commuting a crime and gives a lawfull command, even if you are innocent, if you don't comply you are breaking the law. He absolutely DOES have an obligation to comply. That does NOT mean the cop can just start wailing on you with his night stick.
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Posted on 4/26/16 at 6:45 pm to Jimbeaux
quote:
your claim that a cop can't arrest a shoplifting suspect
He can only arrest him after he had probable cause to believe he committed a crime. Do you really believe that happened here? He did, however, have reasonable suspicion to believe a crime was committed, and should have just asked for a receipt like every other rent a cop in America.
Police can't just arrest anyone because someone else says so.
Posted on 4/26/16 at 6:46 pm to Jimbeaux
Damn, you're an irritable old bag of shite. You really speak confidently and loudly from place of such utter, willfull ignorance.
You clearly are trying to justify the cop's actions and are simultaneously trying to groundlessly besmirch the character of the victim with your pathetic comply or die bootlicker bullshite. You sad, neutered sap.
You clearly are trying to justify the cop's actions and are simultaneously trying to groundlessly besmirch the character of the victim with your pathetic comply or die bootlicker bullshite. You sad, neutered sap.
Posted on 4/26/16 at 6:48 pm to NYNolaguy1
quote:
That's not resisting. I am pretty sure his hands never got above his waist once.
You don't need to fight the cop to resist. If you stand perfectly still but refuse to follow lawful commands, like get on the ground, you are resisting. That doesn't mean the cop can strike you at that moment.
Posted on 4/26/16 at 6:51 pm to Jimbeaux
What's on the video?
Do you think a citizen has to do EVERYTHING a cop says?
What's your angle here? Do EVERYTHING a cop says and the odds of getting fricked up go down? Yeah, that's completely correct. But, its also irrelevant as hell. The arse beating isn't the only ridiculous thing that happened.
He had full proof that he didn't steal anything. So at that point, he should have been left alone with his nice little arse kicking. fricked up still, but whatever.
The retard cop doesn't give two shits about the proof, though. Which IMO, pretty much shows that he never cared about theft at all. He just wanted to beat some arse. Complying was never going to be an option with this stupid arse cop. If a goddamned reciept didn't make the cop say, "oh, shite. Oh damn my bad," then he's to far gone to give a shite if anybody is complying or not.
Your original statement, while not always incorrect, is so irrelevant that you almost have no leg to stand on here.
"The cop was wrong, but if that guy who was in the right just does everything that the cop in the wrong says, he ONLY gets arrested...and not beat up."
Get.the.frick.out.
Do you think a citizen has to do EVERYTHING a cop says?
What's your angle here? Do EVERYTHING a cop says and the odds of getting fricked up go down? Yeah, that's completely correct. But, its also irrelevant as hell. The arse beating isn't the only ridiculous thing that happened.
He had full proof that he didn't steal anything. So at that point, he should have been left alone with his nice little arse kicking. fricked up still, but whatever.
The retard cop doesn't give two shits about the proof, though. Which IMO, pretty much shows that he never cared about theft at all. He just wanted to beat some arse. Complying was never going to be an option with this stupid arse cop. If a goddamned reciept didn't make the cop say, "oh, shite. Oh damn my bad," then he's to far gone to give a shite if anybody is complying or not.
Your original statement, while not always incorrect, is so irrelevant that you almost have no leg to stand on here.
"The cop was wrong, but if that guy who was in the right just does everything that the cop in the wrong says, he ONLY gets arrested...and not beat up."
Get.the.frick.out.
Posted on 4/26/16 at 6:55 pm to ReauxlTide222
quote:
The cop was wrong, but if that guy who was in the right just does everything that the cop in the wrong says, he ONLY gets arrested...and not beat up."
I agree with everything you said, but the dipshit you're arguing with has an even more asinine point: if the perp would have simply complied and accepted the arse beating he would not have gotten arrested after the jackboot had blown off enough steam to collect his wits.
Posted on 4/26/16 at 6:57 pm to ManBearTiger
So I take it you weren't able to find in any of my posts where I defended the cop, or else you would have quoted me.
But you're just cock sure that secretly I'm trying to justify ithe cops actions?
Regarding my "confidence", I'm confident that the old dude would not have gotten his leg broken if he had complied with the cop's order.
And I'm confident that I would have escaped that same scenario without any blows being struck, and would have received an apology after the cop was shown my receipt.
Sorry if the truth hurts your feelings.
How old do you think I am, BTW? Just old enough to have a bit of wisdom...
But you're just cock sure that secretly I'm trying to justify ithe cops actions?
Regarding my "confidence", I'm confident that the old dude would not have gotten his leg broken if he had complied with the cop's order.
And I'm confident that I would have escaped that same scenario without any blows being struck, and would have received an apology after the cop was shown my receipt.
Sorry if the truth hurts your feelings.
How old do you think I am, BTW? Just old enough to have a bit of wisdom...
Posted on 4/26/16 at 6:59 pm to ManBearTiger
Walmart company policy is not to approach a shoplifter until that person has passed the last POS (register) which usually means once they are in the vestibule.
Police do not have to follow this, if they see someone conceal anything or suspect someone has concealed something they can stop them anywhere in the store or outside the store.
Security hired to work for Walmart must follow walmarts policy stated in the first paragraph.
Police do not have to follow this, if they see someone conceal anything or suspect someone has concealed something they can stop them anywhere in the store or outside the store.
Security hired to work for Walmart must follow walmarts policy stated in the first paragraph.
Posted on 4/26/16 at 7:02 pm to Jimbeaux
I'm not sifting through anymore of you ill-informed bullshite to point out what is obvious to any salient person who reads this thread.
When should the old man complied? Between the 1st and 2nd whacks or the 2nd and 3rd ones? Or perhaps any of the subsequent ones? Gramps wasn't putting up a fight amd clearly was indicating he had a receipt in his pocket.
You are one sad individual and sicken me to my core.
When should the old man complied? Between the 1st and 2nd whacks or the 2nd and 3rd ones? Or perhaps any of the subsequent ones? Gramps wasn't putting up a fight amd clearly was indicating he had a receipt in his pocket.
You are one sad individual and sicken me to my core.
Posted on 4/26/16 at 7:04 pm to yoga girl
quote:
yoga girl
I wonder if there are people this unintelligent irl, or if this is just internet trolling....
Posted on 4/26/16 at 7:04 pm to yoga girl
quote:
While Walmart should start new hires at $15 or more (and could easily afford it), the only point I was making was that Walmart is greedy and miserly in their pay and all other facets of their business (except for dumping billions on the Walton family).
Why should they start new hires at $15 an hour? They are a for profit business
Posted on 4/26/16 at 7:06 pm to Jimbeaux
quote:
You don't need to fight the cop to resist. If you stand perfectly still but refuse to follow lawful commands, like get on the ground, you are resisting. That doesn't mean the cop can strike you at that moment.
I asked before, but you didn't respond. I will ask again- where did the cop have probable cause to believe a crime was committed? He can't arrest someone until that's established. It's not a lawful command unless there's a lawful arrest. If he would have asked where the receipt was that would have been within his rights. Unfortunately that didn't happen. Yet you still think he's justified.
I have to ask again- on what grounds?
Posted on 4/26/16 at 7:07 pm to kengel2
quote:
dont think you know how this works. He is off duty and picking up a detail. He gets paid once by walmart.
I do know it works. Walmart pays him. The police wil pay him as well for lack of training or allowing a TPOS to work detail. Watch
Posted on 4/26/16 at 7:08 pm to Weekend Warrior79
quote:
Had it not been for the video, I'm sure people would have justified the actions and just taken the cops word for it.
This x a gogolplex
Posted on 4/26/16 at 7:09 pm to ManBearTiger
There are times where getting on the ground when ordered to is pretty much a must.
Cop runs up to you guns drawn and yells get on the ground....get on the ground.
Someone runs up in a bank holding M16s and yells get on the ground....get on that ground.
But if some loser tells me to get in the ground as I'm leaving a flippin' Walmart, I'm going to assume we can have a mature discussion about why I need to do that shite. Everyone has been leaving a store and been stopped or had the alarms go off. You turn around, giggle, and say, "ahhhh I swear I'm not stealing lol."
Talks ensue, and the shite is solved. For frick's sake, even if he was stealing veggies, nobody should have had a leg broken.
"I know you're stealing veggies, some people say they're fruit...but we'll talk about that in my patrol car. I'm now going to arrest you."
"Sir, I'm not stealing. Here's my reciept."
"Alright fine, you smartass piece of shite. You're lucky you had that reciept that shows you're doing nothing wrong. I was so gonna get you, buster."
As dumb as the cop would have been in that there situation, it still would have been better than what he did.
How does anybody defend this?
Cop runs up to you guns drawn and yells get on the ground....get on the ground.
Someone runs up in a bank holding M16s and yells get on the ground....get on that ground.
But if some loser tells me to get in the ground as I'm leaving a flippin' Walmart, I'm going to assume we can have a mature discussion about why I need to do that shite. Everyone has been leaving a store and been stopped or had the alarms go off. You turn around, giggle, and say, "ahhhh I swear I'm not stealing lol."
Talks ensue, and the shite is solved. For frick's sake, even if he was stealing veggies, nobody should have had a leg broken.
"I know you're stealing veggies, some people say they're fruit...but we'll talk about that in my patrol car. I'm now going to arrest you."
"Sir, I'm not stealing. Here's my reciept."
"Alright fine, you smartass piece of shite. You're lucky you had that reciept that shows you're doing nothing wrong. I was so gonna get you, buster."
As dumb as the cop would have been in that there situation, it still would have been better than what he did.
How does anybody defend this?
Posted on 4/26/16 at 7:11 pm to Jimbeaux
quote:Wait. Why does he have to do what this stupid cop says???
I'm confident that the old dude would not have gotten his leg broken if he had complied with the cop's order.
Posted on 4/26/16 at 7:11 pm to ReauxlTide222
You're missing the point, yoga girl said Walmart new hires should make $15 an hour
Posted on 4/26/16 at 7:11 pm to NYNolaguy1
It's the old whack them with a stick or fist routine (the inborn reaction is to cover for pain), while hollering stop resisting.
This post was edited on 4/26/16 at 7:14 pm
Posted on 4/26/16 at 7:16 pm to TJGator1215
Well cop is a stereotypical cop and the victim is so cool it's hilarious.
Posted on 4/26/16 at 7:19 pm to LSUTANGERINE
Wal Mart will get ahead of this and pay the man. Same as they did with Tracy Morgan
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