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re: Walmart manager accuses man of stealing tomato and cop breaks man's leg.

Posted on 4/26/16 at 6:14 pm to
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
92343 posts
Posted on 4/26/16 at 6:14 pm to
It clearly states that cop was beating his arse WHILE asking the man to get in the ground. How do you avoid getting beat to hell by a cop when the first thing they do is start beating your arse?
Posted by ManBearTiger
BRLA
Member since Jun 2007
22670 posts
Posted on 4/26/16 at 6:14 pm to
Dude you're just completely wrong. It's company policy and I can guarantee you it is the security firm's policy as well as the LE department's policy. For. Exactly. These. Type. Of. Situations.
Posted by LSUwag
Florida man
Member since Jan 2007
18141 posts
Posted on 4/26/16 at 6:15 pm to
No dogs were killed.
Posted by ManBearTiger
BRLA
Member since Jun 2007
22670 posts
Posted on 4/26/16 at 6:16 pm to
He's just your typical crotchety old boot licker. I guaranter he would defend this idiot cop to his death bed if there wasn't such an abundance of evidence. Actually he's doing it right now even with the facts.
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21840 posts
Posted on 4/26/16 at 6:20 pm to
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If you are suspected of committing a crime and confronted by a cop, just comply with his commands. For crying out loud, it's not that hard of a concept. You'll avoid getting injured or worse, and the truth will come out.


His receipt was in his back pocket, which he reiterated multiple times.

Besides that, it is something that this guy will face zero charges for doing something the law recognizes as legal- or at least that's what the DA will surely say.
Posted by Jimbeaux
Member since Sep 2003
21948 posts
Posted on 4/26/16 at 6:21 pm to
You keep talking about company policies. What does that have to do with what happened?

You really think cops working details won't stop a suspected shoplifter after he's left the store? What an ignorant sob you are. Head on down to juvy or municipal court for a day and see how many shoplifting arrestees come through. I suppose you think they were arrested after a team of detectives spent hours pouring over evidence to track down the suspect at his house.
Posted by Jimbeaux
Member since Sep 2003
21948 posts
Posted on 4/26/16 at 6:23 pm to
quote:

quote:
If you are suspected of committing a crime and confronted by a cop, just comply with his commands. For crying out loud, it's not that hard of a concept. You'll avoid getting injured or worse, and the truth will come out.


His receipt was in his back pocket, which he reiterated multiple times.

Besides that, it is something that this guy will face zero charges for doing something the law recognizes as legal- or at least that's what the DA will surely say.


Yes, I know that. All the more reason to simply comply. What's to be gained by resisting?
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21840 posts
Posted on 4/26/16 at 6:25 pm to
quote:

someone observed to be committing a crime. Are you saying that an off duty law enforcement officer working a detail is not allowed to arrest a suspected shoplifter? Or are you saying they shouldn't? Either way you're wrong.


I bet you have a shield. Want to know how I can tell?

Every other person working security that's not LEO simply asks for a receipt. Meanwhile LEO goes in fists up. Not that it matters, the cop won't face charges or a lawsuit.
Posted by Jimbeaux
Member since Sep 2003
21948 posts
Posted on 4/26/16 at 6:26 pm to
I saw the video. Did you? I clearly stated that the cop was wrong in his use of force, but I asked the very salient question of why didn't the law abiding shopper simply comply with the cop's instructions? It's like he wanted to get whacked.
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
85525 posts
Posted on 4/26/16 at 6:26 pm to
quote:

Stolen that tomato, he hadn't left the store yet. They aren't supposed to approach until you walk out the door.


In Louisiana at least, this is not true.
Posted by Hangit
The Green Swamp
Member since Aug 2014
47705 posts
Posted on 4/26/16 at 6:27 pm to
quote:

They said I assaulted him and obstructed him from doing his job


What is the penalty for an officer filing a "pants on fire" report?
Posted by Jimbeaux
Member since Sep 2003
21948 posts
Posted on 4/26/16 at 6:31 pm to
quote:

Every other person working security that's not LEO simply asks for a receipt. Meanwhile LEO goes in fists up. Not that it matters, the co


I'm not a cop. I agree that the cop should have simply asked for a receipt. I think the cop was wrong. I said it in my first post.

What I don't understand is why the shopper didn't comply. It's the smart and reasonable thing to do. When you resist, it makes you look guilty, and it leads to bad things.
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21840 posts
Posted on 4/26/16 at 6:33 pm to
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What's to be gained by resisting?


Do me a favor and point out exactly where he was resisting?
Posted by ManBearTiger
BRLA
Member since Jun 2007
22670 posts
Posted on 4/26/16 at 6:34 pm to
Dude, you are unbelievably obtuse. You are such a dense clown, trying to defend this garbage.

What do policies have to with what happened here? EVERYTHING. If policies put in place were followed this would have never happened.

Not to mention the cop broke from his own training and performed the arrest unlawfully to begin with when he assaulted an innocent person who posed no immediate identifiable threat. In your little brain's idea of paradise are cops just beating the piss out of every other person? You know, while you're in the mood for hypothetical hyperbolized simplifications?
This post was edited on 4/26/16 at 6:35 pm
Posted by Jimbeaux
Member since Sep 2003
21948 posts
Posted on 4/26/16 at 6:36 pm to
You can't be serious? You think just because there's no audio that the cop is silent?

How many licks of that stick does he take after the cop tells him to get down and shoves him by the neck?
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21840 posts
Posted on 4/26/16 at 6:36 pm to
quote:

What I don't understand is why the shopper didn't comply. It's the smart and reasonable thing to do. When you resist, it makes you look guilty, and it leads to bad things.


Believe it or not you don't have to follow every single thing that comes out of LEO's mouth. I can think of a couple of examples if you like.
Posted by ManBearTiger
BRLA
Member since Jun 2007
22670 posts
Posted on 4/26/16 at 6:37 pm to
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I suppose you think they were arrested after a team of detectives spent hours pouring over evidence to track down the suspect at his house.



No, they were detained at the store and then arrested when on duty officers arrived. Get a clue.
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21840 posts
Posted on 4/26/16 at 6:37 pm to
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You can't be serious? You think just because there's no audio that the cop is silent?

How many licks of that stick does he take after the cop tells him to get down and shoves him by the neck?


That's not resisting. I am pretty sure his hands never got above his waist once.

Posted by ManBearTiger
BRLA
Member since Jun 2007
22670 posts
Posted on 4/26/16 at 6:39 pm to
quote:

why didn't the law abiding shopper simply comply with the cop's instructions?


He had absolutely no obligation to do so.
Posted by Jimbeaux
Member since Sep 2003
21948 posts
Posted on 4/26/16 at 6:39 pm to
Hey douchebearpig, show me where I defended the cop. Go ahead. Quote me. That's why you talking to me about store policy is stupid. I never, not once, justified that cop's actions.

However, your claim that a cop can't arrest a shoplifting suspect due to store policy is just plain dumb.
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