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re: Walker High Senior cheerleader killed in car wreck last night...UPDATE: arrest made
Posted on 1/1/24 at 10:40 pm to sleepytime
Posted on 1/1/24 at 10:40 pm to sleepytime
Damn sad. That’s way too young. RIP.
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Posted on 1/1/24 at 10:45 pm to DiamondDog
quote:you call that 'living'?
Ok. My approach is different but my kids will just be alive
Posted on 1/1/24 at 11:00 pm to Beef Tips
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By Louisiana law, 17 yr olds cannot drive alone between the hours of 11pm - 5am. (must have family member over 21 in the car)
Its for this reason I allowed my daughter to go to a party last night, but she rode with a friend to the party and I picked her up after midnight. No way I was allowing her to drive or one of her immature friends drive her after the party.
Pretty sure you and 47 upvoters are misreading the law.
Yep. I thought so.
17 yr olds can drive 24 hrs a day in Louisiana if they have a regular Class E license.
driving age laws in Louisiana
This post was edited on 1/2/24 at 9:09 am
Posted on 1/1/24 at 11:15 pm to mikelbr
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Yep. I thought so.
17 yr olds can drive 24 hrs a day in Louisiana if they have a regular Class E license.
driving age laws in Louisiana
Good info. I recalled the restrictions mentioned for 16 and 17 yr olds when we sent her to driver's ed. However, I am damn sure not telling my 17 yr old that you said she can drive all hours of the night.
Posted on 1/1/24 at 11:16 pm to SuperSaint
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you call that 'living'?
beats being 'dead'
Posted on 1/1/24 at 11:27 pm to Beef Tips
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Good info. I recalled the restrictions mentioned for 16 and 17 yr olds when we sent her to driver's ed. However, I am damn sure not telling my 17 yr old that you said she can drive all hours of the night.
The reason I went after that post was because I was 17 my first semester at LSU and lived at home. My parents did not have a curfew on me per se but they damned sure wanted to know where the hell I was if I was not coming home after midnight or so.
Posted on 1/1/24 at 11:31 pm to GatorPA84
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She was very pretty, that is unfortunate.
And if she wasn't pretty?
Posted on 1/1/24 at 11:59 pm to Hangover Haven
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He was in my nephew’s class
Who is your nephew?
Posted on 1/2/24 at 12:03 am to PrecedentedTimes
I've ran a light and hit a car. It wasn't at all on purpose. It was a situation that has only happened once or twice in my 15 years of driving where I don't even recognize there's a light until the very last half second. Was just unfortunate in that there were no drivers crossing the light (which was prob part of reason I didn't recognize it) right up until I crossed the intersection and a driver happened to be crossing right at that point.
I've seen countless other people drive straight through red lights. You can tell if it's on purpose somewhat if they slow down/stop or just drive right through. If they slow down/stop and run, then it's likely on purpose bc they see the light. If they blaze right through, they prob didn't recognize light. I'd bet every reader here has ran a red light because they were zoned out or didn't recognize a light above them. Humans make error. Anyone saying I don't make errors is a hypocrite.
It's different if she were drunk or purposefully ran a red light. Even though a red light runner is at fault, it's not always them being immoral.
I've seen countless other people drive straight through red lights. You can tell if it's on purpose somewhat if they slow down/stop or just drive right through. If they slow down/stop and run, then it's likely on purpose bc they see the light. If they blaze right through, they prob didn't recognize light. I'd bet every reader here has ran a red light because they were zoned out or didn't recognize a light above them. Humans make error. Anyone saying I don't make errors is a hypocrite.
It's different if she were drunk or purposefully ran a red light. Even though a red light runner is at fault, it's not always them being immoral.
This post was edited on 1/2/24 at 12:08 am
Posted on 1/2/24 at 12:59 am to Porpus
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The law gets weird with wrecks, fault, and DWI. I have a family member who was 100% at fault for a wreck where she made a u-turn in front of another vehicle and got hit. The other driver had been drinking, so they were found to be 100% at fault. That never really sat well with me, if we're being honest. My family member clearly caused that wreck.
Yeah, that's pretty twisted. We've picked this one crime, usually a misdemeanor, and decided that anyone who commits it basically loses whole categories of rights that I would argue are God-given, e.g. the right to be judged fairly.
Another manifestation of it that I see is this notion that, for example, a driver who causes a horrible wreck is somehow less culpable if his toxicological tests come back negative.
You are confusing criminal culpability with civil liability. Anytime a driver is determined to be over the legal intoxication limit there is a criminal violation. This applies even if the determination of intoxication is the result of an accident where another party is at fault or presumed to be. Whether the charges should include negligent homicide or negligent injury is the opinion of the prosecutor that the death or injury would not have occurred if the person had been sober.
In the civil case all factors are weighed to determine their relative application to the accident. The judge or jury might assess partial fault to the person who was under the influence even if another party actually ran the red light on the premise they might have avoided the accident if sober and with quicker reaction time. For example that person might be assessed 25% comparative negligence for the accident and resultant damages.
Posted on 1/2/24 at 1:04 am to mikelbr
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Pretty sure you and 47 upvoters are misreading the law.
And the 49 downvotes look stupid on my response
Suckers
Posted on 1/2/24 at 4:03 am to Rick9Plus
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My kid is the same age. Was driving a friend home and passed it after the cops arrived. Said it was really bad. It’s a fine line you walk between bubble-wrapping your kids and letting them grow up. I can’t imagine what the parents are going through.
Agree. Probably one of the hardest things to watch is when your kids begin driving on their own. You feel kind of powerless but know it has to happen and they are no longer kids. This story is every parents worst nightmare when they do drive off.
This post was edited on 1/2/24 at 4:05 am
Posted on 1/2/24 at 5:32 am to sleepytime
IMO 17 year olds aren't the best decision makers hence the reason they aren't allowed to do certain things like vote or drink. Driver of vehicle #2 life has now been changed forever because the parents allowed the kid to make a decision. If the parents knew the child was drinking they should be put under the jail.
Posted on 1/2/24 at 6:13 am to Saunson69
People run red lights all the time. Sometimes with tragic results. Lot of needless speculation going on here.
Posted on 1/2/24 at 6:37 am to SixthAndBarone
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It was a car accident and you’re putting blame on the parent for curfew time on NYE?
NYE is the WORST night of the year to be driving on the roads. not just for a 17 year old either.
Posted on 1/2/24 at 6:39 am to Cosmo
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A half decent pool/patio is 100k these days
We looked at getting one put in back during the covid crap.
Our back yard slopes down.
$80k for us.
No way. An in ground pool can kill resale value.
Posted on 1/2/24 at 7:30 am to Hangover Haven
Lost 5 I graduated with, in one wreck the year after HS. 40 years later those parents(that are still alive) have a different look in their eyes and tone in their voices.
One of life’s cruelest punches in the gut to lose a child before they’ve really lived.
One of life’s cruelest punches in the gut to lose a child before they’ve really lived.
Posted on 1/2/24 at 7:41 am to sleepytime
Just found out a guy I went to HS with had a seizure while driving and died in a single-car crash two days after Christmas. He leaves behind a young daughter. Sad.
Posted on 1/2/24 at 7:48 am to choupiquesushi
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Lost 5 I graduated with, in one wreck the year after HS
A good friend of mine was killed one year after he graduated. He was a year older than me and went to underwater welding school in Houston. He had finished school and came back to town for our graduation and a wedding and was set to start a new job in Lafayette the next week. His mom and my mom were close as well and I will never forget my mom calling me at 2 AM that morning to tell me he had flipped a car (was a friend's car) taking a sharp curve too fast.
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One of life’s cruelest punches in the gut to lose a child before they’ve really lived.
His mom later told my mom that she gauges my life and his other friend's life to see what her son would be doing if he was still alive. His mom still mourns him every day nearly 26 years later. He was the youngest of her kids and they were very close.
Posted on 1/2/24 at 7:55 am to phil good
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Driver of vehicle #2 life has now been changed forever because the parents allowed the kid to make a decision. If the parents knew the child was drinking they should be put under the jai
You seem quick to jump to conclusions. How do we know the other driver was not the one drinking? It's also possible that both were under the influence.
Prayers for all of the Walker Sr class and the parents and young siblings of the young lady. Those poor siblings are changed for life now as that was their role model and the one they seemed to look up too
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