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re: WAFB: BRPD not ready to determine motive in LSU student’s shooting death

Posted on 9/20/22 at 8:59 pm to
Posted by GreenRockTiger
vortex to the whirlpool of despair
Member since Jun 2020
53509 posts
Posted on 9/20/22 at 8:59 pm to
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"Oh, you think something is wrong? Just ignore it and quit." Hope that's not the lesson you're teaching your kids (or grandkids)

There’s nothing wrong with this thread - so it’ll be okay if you ignore it.
Posted by Sasquatch Smash
Member since Nov 2007
25454 posts
Posted on 9/20/22 at 9:01 pm to
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Yeah, it’s a tipping point for a lot of folks where their frustration with Murphy Paul’s police force turns into outrage.


Not to mention the cavalcade of other crimes that greeted students in the first weeks on LSU’s campus.
This post was edited on 9/20/22 at 9:02 pm
Posted by ruzil
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2012
17923 posts
Posted on 9/20/22 at 9:06 pm to
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If the victim were a 21-year-old black woman who was finishing up her degree from Southern, it would not nearly garner this same response. It's asinine to claim it would.


Maybe, because of the amount of black on black crime, people are desensitized to it. Especially since if a black person is killed, there is a 94% chance it is at the hands of another black person.

Horrible facts.

Posted by Toptigerfan86
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2022
2833 posts
Posted on 9/20/22 at 9:07 pm to
Facts are racist
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
75026 posts
Posted on 9/20/22 at 9:09 pm to
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Especially since if a black person is killed, there is a 94% chance it is at the hands of another black person.
And for some absolutely stupid reason in the modern era, not one person will come forward to put the killer behind bars.

Even when it comes to children.

The “snitches get stitches” campaign has destroyed these communities.
Posted by Toptigerfan86
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2022
2833 posts
Posted on 9/20/22 at 9:11 pm to
I’m not sure if that’s or the inherently racist nature of their community that leads them to protect their own regardless of the offense
Posted by Sasquatch Smash
Member since Nov 2007
25454 posts
Posted on 9/20/22 at 9:13 pm to
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What's your point? That I only called out violent crime in BR before my edit?


My point was that you edited after I had already replied. That’s all.

But speaking of “selective response,” you must really be in a hissy when there is disproportionate outrage to other rare events nationally.

Right?

Do you call out those “selective responses” as well?

I look forward to you starting a thread calling out selective responses, or drawing the OT’s attention to other murders and violent crime in BR that you think we don’t care about.

Until then.
This post was edited on 9/21/22 at 8:13 am
Posted by go ta hell ole miss
Member since Jan 2007
14026 posts
Posted on 9/20/22 at 9:55 pm to
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The “snitches get stitches” campaign has destroyed these communities.


True, but if you ever have any type of investigation of cops for corruption, etc., their fellow cops have lockjaw. Cops follow the same rule on snitches when one of theirs is being accused.
Posted by elprez00
Hammond, LA
Member since Sep 2011
30674 posts
Posted on 9/20/22 at 10:05 pm to
“Arm yourself because no one else here will save you”.

This should be the city motto.
Posted by magildachunks
Member since Oct 2006
34147 posts
Posted on 9/20/22 at 11:21 pm to
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The perp or perps were registered to that number and it wasn't a prepaid phone or under another person's name.




Pre-paid is actually incredibly easy to pinpoint to a suspect.

And easier to get a search warrant for.

It's very hard to get a search warrant for every cell phone, usually you have to ask for a search warrant for the phone of a specific person.

But if you ask for a search warrant for pre-paid phones, you'll get that granted easier than asking for all phones.

Once you have the pre-paid info, you have everything about it: where it was bought, how it was paid for (cash or card), when and where it was activated, and any numbers called, or text transcripts involving the phone.

Most stores have cameras pointed at the registers, so you have video evidence of the person who bought the phone.

Posted by magildachunks
Member since Oct 2006
34147 posts
Posted on 9/20/22 at 11:24 pm to
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True, but if you ever have any type of investigation of cops for corruption, etc., their fellow cops have lockjaw. Cops follow the same rule on snitches when one of theirs is being accused.




So did/do the Italians, Irish, Russians... pretty much any community tied to organized crime.

And the Italian Mafia and Irish mob are usually romanticized by Hollywood and American audiences.
Posted by magildachunks
Member since Oct 2006
34147 posts
Posted on 9/20/22 at 11:35 pm to
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Violent crime in Baton Rouge (and the OT's selective response to it)




There is something to this point.


A few years ago the 15 year old son of a politician (maybe the DA) was shot during a drug deal gone bad.

The vast majority of responses here were about how he was a good kid who made a mistake and it was a tragedy.

The same day a black kid was shot in NBR, mistaken identity or something like that, and the responses at the beginning mainly consisted of "typical" and "He was going to college" sarcasm.
This post was edited on 9/20/22 at 11:36 pm
Posted by LSU fan 246
Member since Oct 2005
90567 posts
Posted on 9/20/22 at 11:50 pm to
youre doing the lord's work in here man
Posted by cubsfan5150
NWA
Member since Nov 2007
16777 posts
Posted on 9/20/22 at 11:58 pm to
Links?
Posted by 6R12
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2005
10533 posts
Posted on 9/21/22 at 12:08 am to
It's simple, it's a hate crime.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
61348 posts
Posted on 9/21/22 at 2:59 am to
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Would that also be justice for the other hundred murders in BR this year that the OT hasn't given a shite about?

Young black man gets killed? That's just North BR being North BR.

Pretty white college girl gets killed? Pin the thread and call your local representatives. Why aren't they publishing multiple stories on this every day?


Stop building straw men and state which specific incident you think this board didn't "care enough" about.


Posted by BRgetthenet
Member since Oct 2011
118102 posts
Posted on 9/21/22 at 4:46 am to
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because of the amount of black on black crime, people are desensitized to it. Especially since if a black person is killed, there is a 94% chance it is at the hands of another black person.


It’s been tough reading threads about her death, seeing the rage B.R. residents have for their local politicians/police, and people theorizing about the murder because it’s pretty apparent by now there’s very little in the way of a competent, diligent, investigation taking place by B.R. police.

I was raised in New Orleans by boomers. One was a physician, the other a pharmacist. And both worked a lot. So, I was with my grandparents a good bit. Anybody who’s lived with their generation of New Orleanian understands that saying things to young children like, “Oh, honey, you can’t bla bla bla with all the n***** in this city.” Or, “Dawlin, when are you gonna realize that bla bla bla is because of all the f’n n*****?” area pretty casual statements of unsolicited advice during typically mundane conversations back then.

I knew how racist they were. However, during the 90’s, at 5PM, people would regularly interject, “ahhhp, welp, time for the dead n**** news.” Within a fraction of a second after the lead in tune, Dennis, Alec, Sally, or whoever you watched would repeat, night after night, for years, “A _______(pick a hood) man is dead tonight after gunfire rang out around ________PM.”

NOPD may have made an arrest, or they were searching for a man who opened fire killing___________(pick a hood/number shot). When they did have an arrest, they’d flash the booking photo in the corner of the screen. You knew the shooter and victim were both black. Ya knew about the victim’s race because they’d show the deceased with CAUTION tape surrounding an active murder scene where NOPD would peruse back and forth, always lifting the tape to approach the body which would have an exposed limb that gave away their race.

As I got a little older, I knew a few black dudes in high school (boarding school). One dude that I had classes with was one of the all time leading scorers and four year varsity forward on our soccer team. The others I played football with and didn’t see much of outside of the season.

It took joining the service, where I made friends with and had genuine respect/trust for black guys, teaching at Capitol Middle for several years in EBR in 2007 (thanks to Lamont-I genuinely liked the guy back then), getting married/having children, finding a relationship with God after being raised Catholic (not easy), and moving on with life to see there are lots of black men and women who are more successful than me. In every way.

Understanding that, as an adult, has become a great source of peacefulness. It has also positively humbling. Knowing that there’s another reality, in which black families are wildly successful, thriving, and depend on each other has been so much more encouraging and conducive to what I’m trying to perpetuate for my wife, daughters, friends, and neighbors. It also isn’t any sort of big mystery to me why they’re successful, either. That’s exactly the way it should be. How anyone could ever convince themselves of anything otherwise is ignorant.

At any rate, I think the “inherently racist nature of their community that leads them to protect their own regardless of the offense”, as was mentioned earlier, isn’t that complicated. Especially when you look at the historical relationship the black community has had with the democratic party and radical liberals.

To the black community, these people are the caricature of who and what represents white culture, ethics, morals, faith, values…the same twats who have taken over this country with electioneering, “news” media, “polls”, academics, medical “research”,,…you name it. The untold atrocities purposely targeted at black communities under the auspices of progressive or affirmative policy, which only further manipulatively cripples their inherent desire to be productive and prosperous, has created the most mistrustful, entitled, unimaginative culture this country knows. Not surprisingly, a private and protective approach to their community, values, ethics, and justice has been passed from one generation to the next in an attempt to find fairness, or anything resembling redemption.

We all know the truth about what is happening. We might not have the balls to fight criminals on their turf, tell politicians things that get us labeled or canceled, or find the patience to peacefully move in a positive direction. Many black men and women are waking up to the truth. The problem, as we all know it, is it’s not happening with the Baton Rouge black community. It seems the cycle will be impossible to break. Only natural disaster has that potential. But, that would be a zero sum game.

It’s been difficult to think straight since the murder happened. I hope Allie’s father can bring himself to find any peace knowing she’s made it, is in a better place than anything we can possibly imagine, and will be waiting for him when God calls him home. I’ve fought back tears for this family, each day, thinking of my own and how no one should be expected to live with the grief and pain of how her life ended.

I’m a sinner. I’m weak. I would be murderous, and for that I’d go straight to hell.

Lord, have Mercy on us all
Posted by Evil Little Thing
Member since Jul 2013
11532 posts
Posted on 9/21/22 at 5:51 am to
Very well said.
Posted by sicboy
Because Awesome
Member since Nov 2010
78658 posts
Posted on 9/21/22 at 6:04 am to
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Why does motive even matter? Find the murderer first and then maybe ask him why he murdered an innocent person.


They (and others) are more concerned with optics.



Spit balling here, but I think finding a possible motive will probably help them track down suspects.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
59424 posts
Posted on 9/21/22 at 6:29 am to
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Pretty white girl from Dutchtown? We're all up in arms demanding justice.



She was murdered sitting in her fricking car, you stupid frick. This isn't the result of a conflict...or a stray bullet meant for someone else.


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