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Vox: The problem isn’t inflation. It’s prices.

Posted on 11/10/23 at 5:23 pm
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
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Posted on 11/10/23 at 5:23 pm
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Life in 2023 means being in a constant state of sticker shock.

You walk out of the grocery store feeling like you’re not really sure what happened, but somehow, your normal fare ran you $50 more than you swear it should have. Did Diet Coke always cost that much? Or eggs? Maybe you’ve been putting off buying that new car in the hope prices go back to where they were pre-pandemic, but you’re starting to feel like the wait is awfully long. Or, the morning after a post-work happy hour, you’re left scratching your head. You swear you had two glasses of wine, but the size of your credit card receipt makes you wonder if it wasn’t four. “How expensive everything is today” is a top theme of conversation. The whole situation can be infuriating.

The root of what’s going on here can feel obvious: blame inflation, which picked up in mid-2021 and throughout 2022. But that isn’t really the issue anymore, at least not at the current rate, because inflation is coming down. The actual problem here is prices.

They’re not going up nearly as much as they were in, say, the middle of last year, but they’re by and large not declining en masse, either. And in most cases, they won’t get back to where they were in the Before Times.

“Inflation in the US is falling relatively quickly compared to all of our other peer countries, and we have the strongest growth out of the recession,” said Felicia Wong, president and CEO of the Roosevelt Institute, a progressive think tank. “But people don’t just want falling inflation numbers, they actually want deflation.”

Deflation probably isn’t in the cards (and the rub is we don’t want it to be). Higher prices might just be the sort of thing we’ve all got to get used to. The truth is we’re never going back to how things were in 2019 — we won’t be returning to the office at the same levels, we’ll never hear “corona” and only think of beer, and that night on the town is going to cost us more than it did before.



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I don’t pretend to have all the answers here, but I think one thing is quite clear: People really do not like paying more for stuff than they used to. That doesn’t mean American consumers aren’t still spending — they are — but they’re mad about it.


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Some prices have declined and will likely bounce around and fall, such as for commodities and goods. Lumber prices, which soared in 2021, have settled. The same goes for eggs. Oil prices and many food prices depend on global factors, from weather to geopolitics, that are impossible to control. Airfare prices have fallen, but they’re likely to pick back up again soon.

In many areas where prices have come down, they’re not where they were pre-pandemic. As the Wall Street Journal noted in October, the prices of a number of items, from milk to gasoline to new cars, have declined from their recent peaks but are still above where they were ahead of the outset of the Covid-19 outbreak.


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Some prices aren’t going to come down at all, meaning your $7 latte isn’t magically going to be $5 like it was in 2015. (On the positive side, with inflation slowing, it’s probably not going to cost $11 next year, either.) The same goes for aggregate prices on the whole.

“The things that people are very price sensitive about and that they really do think about — the price of gas, food prices, price of cars, the price of housing — is all pretty elevated. Cars and housing in particular saw a big shift up and have not declined very much,” Konczal said.

The situation is frustrating to consumers, but it’s important to note that prices suddenly dropping really isn’t a desired outcome — deflation, meaning a broad decline in prices, is generally viewed as a negative by economists.


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The rate of inflation really is slowing (and, if all goes well, will continue to do so), and the disorienting nature of what’s happened in the economy over the past few years will likely fade. Post-pandemic prices will eventually feel normal, and post-pandemic wages should make those prices more feasible — or at least not significantly less feasible than they were before. Sooner or later, sticker shock will feel a little less shocking.



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Someone nominate this "journalist" for a Pulitzer now!
Posted by OysterPoBoy
City of St. George
Member since Jul 2013
40511 posts
Posted on 11/10/23 at 5:27 pm to
Yeah, inflated prices.
Posted by jeffsdad
Member since Mar 2007
23371 posts
Posted on 11/10/23 at 5:30 pm to
Lot of words to say prices were outrageously raised and they arnt going back down
Posted by shutterspeed
MS Gulf Coast
Member since May 2007
68122 posts
Posted on 11/10/23 at 5:30 pm to
Vox, sponsored by Brawndo.
Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
15012 posts
Posted on 11/10/23 at 5:31 pm to
I’m sure her liberal arts degree makes her an expert on the topic.
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
175630 posts
Posted on 11/10/23 at 5:33 pm to
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I’m sure her liberal arts degree makes her an expert on the topic.




She talks like a Valley Girl


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Basically, if I get a raise at work, I think it’s because I’m awesome. That may be partly true, but that’s not all that’s going on — it’s also that the labor market is tight and wages broadly are going up. My current employer doesn’t want to lose me, and my future employer would have to pay me a little more to lure me away.



Like totally awesome
Posted by jennyjones
New Orleans Saints Fan
Member since Apr 2006
9730 posts
Posted on 11/10/23 at 5:33 pm to
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Lot of words to say prices were outrageously raised and they arnt going back down


“Bidenomics”
Posted by Bard
Definitely NOT an admin
Member since Oct 2008
55460 posts
Posted on 11/10/23 at 5:33 pm to
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progressive think tank


I've found a big part of the problem: using a progressive think tank to try to understand economics. I'm surprised they didn't try proponing a UBI as a remedy.
This post was edited on 11/10/23 at 5:35 pm
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
69632 posts
Posted on 11/10/23 at 5:35 pm to
tBoy: i agree. it’s a fact.
Corinthians: technically, they aren’t wrong.
Oweo: what’s inflation even mean?
This post was edited on 11/10/23 at 5:39 pm
Posted by LSU Coyote
Member since Sep 2007
54916 posts
Posted on 11/10/23 at 5:38 pm to
Fckking Vox

To believe at one time I used to love The Verge (owned by Vox)

2016 broke all these ppl.
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
56276 posts
Posted on 11/10/23 at 5:38 pm to
Your problem isn't a broken leg; it's the limp you have as a result.
Posted by High C
viewing the fall....
Member since Nov 2012
57408 posts
Posted on 11/10/23 at 5:39 pm to
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Inflation in the US is falling relatively quickly compared to all of our other peer countries, and we have the strongest growth out of the recession,” said Felicia Wong, Biden and DNC crony.
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
61307 posts
Posted on 11/10/23 at 5:49 pm to
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The problem isn’t inflation. It’s prices


Inflation = raised prices
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
130177 posts
Posted on 11/10/23 at 5:52 pm to
Is this democratic spin?
Posted by Paul Allen
Montauk, NY
Member since Nov 2007
77241 posts
Posted on 11/10/23 at 5:53 pm to
Chicken wings is a good example of how it’s prices and not inflation. They’ve come down significantly at the grocery store but go to any restaurant where if it’s an appetizer or entree and wings are exponentially expensive and are more than likely not going to come down like they did at the grocery store.
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
68979 posts
Posted on 11/10/23 at 5:53 pm to
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The root of what’s going on here can feel obvious: blame inflation, which picked up in mid-2021 and throughout 2022. But that isn’t really the issue anymore, at least not at the current rate, because inflation is coming down. The actual problem here is prices.



And idiotic leftist Democrats will read this and nod their heads in agreement.
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
68979 posts
Posted on 11/10/23 at 5:55 pm to
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Chicken wings is a good example of how it’s prices and not inflation. They’ve come down significantly at the grocery store but go to any restaurant where if it’s an appetizer or entree and wings are exponentially expensive and are more than likely not going to come down like they did at the grocery store.


Has it not occurred to you the reason restaurants are so much more expensive now is their labor cost has exploded over the last couple of years because they can’t anyone to work for less than $15 an hour? And even they they struggle to find people willing to work.

ETA: down vote it bitch, you’re still an idiot.
This post was edited on 11/10/23 at 5:58 pm
Posted by Paul Allen
Montauk, NY
Member since Nov 2007
77241 posts
Posted on 11/10/23 at 5:57 pm to
frick you
Posted by WaterLink
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2015
19619 posts
Posted on 11/10/23 at 5:58 pm to
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
69632 posts
Posted on 11/10/23 at 5:59 pm to
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