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re: Voting on the Greenlight Plan
Posted on 11/29/16 at 1:37 pm to Tigeralum2008
Posted on 11/29/16 at 1:37 pm to Tigeralum2008
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funded =/ completed
You are still comparing apples to oranges. An annual budget to projects that may take years. If a project takes years then it won't need to be all paid in year one.
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Posted on 11/29/16 at 1:38 pm to tigerinthebueche
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well grab your wallet buddy, cause the state is getting ready to increase the gas tax by double digits!! Yes you can add another .20/gallon for gas. Cause you know gas is only $1.94/gallon right now. But when it goes up to $2.50-2.75/gallon, you and I will be paying over $3/gallon cause JBE thinks its just by God time we increase that gas tax.
This fricking state!!
The money will probably not even go to roads. It'll go to the Fireman's Retirement Fund or something totally unrelated to gasoline usage.
Posted on 11/29/16 at 1:46 pm to The Mick
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LA likes to throw everything into the General Fund so they can legally steal in true Ponzi fashion.
EBR Parish. Not state. And the funds stay separate.
Posted on 11/29/16 at 1:46 pm to DaTroof
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First of all....bullshite
What did I say that was incorrect?
The state's DOT hasn't been fully funded since the late 80's (if I remember correctly).
The state's constitution ties government leader's hands with clauses protecting the budgets of nearly every state agency besides Higher Ed and Health.
With revenue streams cut short and facing annual deficits, the state pilfered DOT's funding to minimize the amount of new debt we would take on each year by reallocating the dollars into the protected departments.
I hate new taxes just as much as you guys do. But voting No on needed infrastructure projects will only push people with good careers/education out of the state as they have the employment mobility to do so. And everyone else will just simply continue to be stuck in traffic
This post was edited on 11/29/16 at 2:01 pm
Posted on 11/29/16 at 2:04 pm to lsu13lsu
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The money will probably not even go to roads. It'll go to the Fireman's Retirement Fund or something totally unrelated to gasoline usage.
False, it will go into that new bridge everyone on this board has been calling on for years.
the proposed increase is very specific in the use of the funding due in large part to our esteemed history of robbing Peter to pay Paul
Trumps $1T infrastructure plan will help us out as well.
We may need to pause the gax tax increase talks until we see how the Trump plan will pan out.
This post was edited on 11/29/16 at 2:05 pm
Posted on 11/29/16 at 2:12 pm to Tigeralum2008
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False, it will go into that new bridge everyone on this board has been calling on for years.
Why would our parish property taxes pay for a new bridge for LDOTD? GLP is generally for local roads. Parish is currently purchasing most of the state roads from LDOTD since they refuse to maintain them.
Posted on 11/29/16 at 2:14 pm to DaTroof
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Second of all....I want to see those who have neglected this "backlog" to the tune of $12B fired, fined, and imprisoned. We the people need accountability for the tax dollars we have already paid to this state for many many years. Where has all the money gone? I'm no longer interested in bailing out the State of Louisiana due to years of willful neglect by our government. frick ANY NEW TAXES! Let's work to REDUCE taxes for the good people of Louisiana.
The federal government actually pays for 50% of our state budget. I'm not sure how you'll see citizens pay less.
Posted on 11/29/16 at 8:15 pm to LSURussian
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This is a new tax, not a renewal.
It is both. A renewal of the original and an additional tax for new projects. The renewal has a list of interior residential roads for a new list.
As with the first if it is a dedicated tax for roads and EBR will be able to sell bonds immediately based on the projected revenue and start work now. It is the same as the first which Kip Holden put in place. Prior to that it was a temporary "pothole" tax and we were never able to leverage the money.
It does not include the federal or state roads as some have noted the new bridge, widening of interstate etc...
I support both because it has been money well spent and we all have seen results.
And to The Mick-it is ONLY for Greenlight projects and cannot go into the general fund.
Posted on 11/29/16 at 8:21 pm to Martini
Green Light Plan 2
I should have linked this. It is a list of projects that will be funded if the new 5 mil tax passes.
I should have linked this. It is a list of projects that will be funded if the new 5 mil tax passes.
Posted on 11/29/16 at 9:42 pm to Martini
Lot of uninformed people in this thread and that is part of the problem. Those same people are the first to complain about traffic.
People want things but don't want to pay for them. I get it. I don't want to pay anymore than I have to which is why we have to make sure taxes are dedicated and can't be moved. This one is and if they decide to push a new state gas tax we need to make sure our legislators know it has to be ironclad dedicated for roads in order to be supported.
We will not get an opportunity with either candidate that wins for mayor to improve our parish roads. Read the link above and read the list. It is substantial and in my opinion worth it.
People want things but don't want to pay for them. I get it. I don't want to pay anymore than I have to which is why we have to make sure taxes are dedicated and can't be moved. This one is and if they decide to push a new state gas tax we need to make sure our legislators know it has to be ironclad dedicated for roads in order to be supported.
We will not get an opportunity with either candidate that wins for mayor to improve our parish roads. Read the link above and read the list. It is substantial and in my opinion worth it.
Posted on 11/29/16 at 9:43 pm to Martini
I thought people were against new taxes? This is a new tax. Can't they fix it with what they get?
Posted on 11/29/16 at 9:49 pm to Martini
When will chandler loupe run for mayor ??
Posted on 11/29/16 at 9:59 pm to Martini
is this a sales tax or a property tax?
Posted on 11/29/16 at 10:04 pm to El Jefe
It is a renewal of a dedicated road property tax for the enhancement package and a new 5 mil dedicated road tax for EBR Parish.
Click the link above on greenlight and look at the map and list of road improvements. It is large and needed. I for some reason can't copy and paste the list.
Click the link above on greenlight and look at the map and list of road improvements. It is large and needed. I for some reason can't copy and paste the list.
Posted on 11/29/16 at 10:07 pm to Martini
So it's a rededication of the sales tax already in place, and the new funding will come from property owners only?
Posted on 11/29/16 at 10:26 pm to El Jefe
It's property tax. Not sales tax.
Posted on 11/29/16 at 10:32 pm to Martini
So the roads are paid for by only those that own property? Seems fair.
Posted on 11/30/16 at 1:03 pm to Martini
Sorry to bump a day old thread...but I found a list of road widening projects included with this Tax. I think I am in agreement since this is a lot of work that would ultimately never get done otherwise. I'm not normally in support of "tax and spend" stuff unless it is clear where they money is going, the tax is temporary and must be renewed by voters eventually, and it actually helps improve public services to taxpayers in a way that is actually needed. IMO this meets those criteria.
Baton Rouge has a lot of infrastructure needs, and this at least helps address some of it.
LINK
It appears to include all "supplemental" projects from the original green light plan that they were not sure they could complete, plus a good bit more new ones:
-Widen Bluebonnet btw Mall of La and Perkins Road
-New Connecting road between Hennessey and Perkins
-Widen Lee Drive between Highland and Perkins (I suspect to 3 lanes)
-Widen College between Perkins and I-10 to 6 lanes
-Improve College/I-10 Interchange
-New Frontage Road between Essen and Bluebonnet on I-10
-New Midway Blvd parallel to Bluebonnet and Essen
-Connection between Kennilworth and Burbank
-Finish widening Old Hammond all the way to O'Neal
-Widen Hooper Road in Central
-Widen Nicholson/Highway 30 from Burbank all the way to the parish line
Also included are a lot of sidewalk and pedestrian infrastructure, although that's a smaller portion of the total cost.
Unfortunately the state/feds will have to get involved for widening the larger roads such as Airline Highway or I-10. This does not address those problem areas.
Baton Rouge has a lot of infrastructure needs, and this at least helps address some of it.
LINK
It appears to include all "supplemental" projects from the original green light plan that they were not sure they could complete, plus a good bit more new ones:
-Widen Bluebonnet btw Mall of La and Perkins Road
-New Connecting road between Hennessey and Perkins
-Widen Lee Drive between Highland and Perkins (I suspect to 3 lanes)
-Widen College between Perkins and I-10 to 6 lanes
-Improve College/I-10 Interchange
-New Frontage Road between Essen and Bluebonnet on I-10
-New Midway Blvd parallel to Bluebonnet and Essen
-Connection between Kennilworth and Burbank
-Finish widening Old Hammond all the way to O'Neal
-Widen Hooper Road in Central
-Widen Nicholson/Highway 30 from Burbank all the way to the parish line
Also included are a lot of sidewalk and pedestrian infrastructure, although that's a smaller portion of the total cost.
Unfortunately the state/feds will have to get involved for widening the larger roads such as Airline Highway or I-10. This does not address those problem areas.
This post was edited on 11/30/16 at 1:07 pm
Posted on 11/30/16 at 1:51 pm to mikelbr
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--Do you not remember southbound traffic on Perkins heading toward Bluebonnet in the 90s? It was backed up to Imahara's everyday and often all way back to Bles Rd.
--Burbank was the same way southbound to Gardere would back up to Lakeside Daq.
--Highland Northbound to Gardere would back up to bluebonnet.
--Siegen Southbound at Highland would back up to Perkins when someone wanted to turn left at Natchez Trace or Quail Ridge.
They added dual turn lanes at Acadian/Stanford/Perkins and on Essen I/10. Not exactly innovative, but it was a huge relief and should have been done 30 years ago. Old Hammond widening, Central Thruway, and Burbank widening east of Airline helped tremendously too.
Those are capacity projects that were desperately needed.
Posted on 11/30/16 at 2:02 pm to tigerinthebueche
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Promote use of the 190 bridge
I think it's underutilized because the road network people have to use to get to and from the bridge is dog shite. Airline, in particular is too narrow, has too many lights, and too many curb cuts that promote sharp left and right turns for local traffic.
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