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re: Vote to change TOPS to need based or ACT at least 30 FAILS

Posted on 5/10/17 at 5:38 pm to
Posted by Isabelle81
NEW ORLEANS, LA
Member since Sep 2015
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Posted on 5/10/17 at 5:38 pm to
Education in Louisiana is not going to get anyone a 30 on the ACT. You can only get what is given.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 5/10/17 at 5:38 pm to
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That ends up being a lot of money wasted on students who never graduate.


Who says you don't graduate just because you lose TOPS?
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 5/10/17 at 5:39 pm to
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Education in Louisiana is not going to get anyone a 30 on the ACT.


Derp.
Posted by tigerskin
Member since Nov 2004
46960 posts
Posted on 5/10/17 at 5:39 pm to
Are those numbers in addition to TOPS?
Posted by tigerskin
Member since Nov 2004
46960 posts
Posted on 5/10/17 at 5:40 pm to
You know that isn't true, right?
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
49577 posts
Posted on 5/10/17 at 5:44 pm to
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People with a 30+ ACT most certainly do go to LSU


I did
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 5/10/17 at 5:44 pm to
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Education in Louisiana is not going to get anyone a 30 on the ACT.

there were at least 10, 30s in my graduating class
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
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Posted on 5/10/17 at 5:45 pm to
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I did
Posted by Sheep
Neither here nor there
Member since Jun 2007
19699 posts
Posted on 5/10/17 at 6:01 pm to
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Education in Louisiana is not going to get anyone a 30 on the ACT. You can only get what is given.


Da fuq?

I went to a public school in a small town (good schools, but still) and made a 31, twice.





I went to Mississippi State on a full ride. LSU offered me about a 1/3 scholarship, in the pre-TOPS days.
Posted by Upperdecker
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 5/10/17 at 6:06 pm to
I got a 33 on the ACT. Yes, that's in the top 1%. I should have been offered a full ride to most colleges. Alabama and other out of state schools offered me a full ride, tuition + room and board + a stipend. LSU only offered me TOPS and a $1000 per year scholarship. FWIW, that basically covered tuition, the several hundred dollars in fees, and books for both semesters. That's with the highest level of TOPS too. We don't offer enough to in state students that are high achieving academically, hence why we lose so many to other out of state schools

Edit: i went to LSU because I loved the school from growing up in BR, and I couldnt see myself anywhere else, even when the money would have been better elsewhere. But it sucks I had to take a worse financial situation to go to the school I grew up loving
This post was edited on 5/10/17 at 6:09 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
481186 posts
Posted on 5/10/17 at 6:08 pm to
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We don't offer enough to in state students that are high achieving academically, hence why we lose so many to other out of state schools

that's what TOPS was originally proposed to do

it's hilarious how this state caters to the lowest level and ignores the top
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 5/10/17 at 6:09 pm to
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it's hilarious how our entire educational system caters to the lowest level and ignores the top
Posted by ellishughtiger
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Posted on 5/10/17 at 6:13 pm to
I'm sure a 28 or 29 can get you a full ride to ole miss or state.
Posted by LordSaintly
Member since Dec 2005
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Posted on 5/10/17 at 6:22 pm to
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it's hilarious how this state caters to the lowest level and ignores the top



There are a lot more people at the bottom than the top.
Posted by Restomod
Member since Mar 2012
13493 posts
Posted on 5/10/17 at 6:28 pm to
30?

Posted by dcrews
Houston, TX
Member since Feb 2011
32130 posts
Posted on 5/10/17 at 6:32 pm to
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30 is absurdly high.


I agree.

I made a 23 on my ACT, received TOPS, graduated from a 4 year university and am doing well for myself because of the education.

Not to mention, anyone making a 30 likely isn't utilizing TOPS anyway.
Posted by LucasP
Member since Apr 2012
21618 posts
Posted on 5/10/17 at 6:39 pm to
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made a 23 on my ACT


And you typed that out all by yourself, you're doing great bud!
Posted by dcrews
Houston, TX
Member since Feb 2011
32130 posts
Posted on 5/10/17 at 6:41 pm to
You going through something?

Your posts have been subpar lately.
Posted by vistajay
Member since Oct 2012
2935 posts
Posted on 5/10/17 at 6:43 pm to
28 or 29 ACT does not get you a full ride, or even full tuition at LSU's competition. It will get you 1/2 to 3/4 off the tuition, though you still have room, board and fees. A 30 will get you full tuition at Alabama if you are in state. Perhaps they were using Alabama as a guide. But most other schools with merit aid programs employ a staggered approach to awards. That would make sense in LA, but then they probably could not have afforded to include the need based component.
Posted by vistajay
Member since Oct 2012
2935 posts
Posted on 5/10/17 at 6:46 pm to
A 30 is not that special anymore. It will get you scholarships to schools similar to LSU or small regional colleges. TOPS was meant to keep those students in Louisiana.
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